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Kelby Laughner ran the Olympic Trials Marathon in 2020 while 27 weeks pregnant. Need I say more? Kelby was my first live podcast guest and it was a lot of fun (and also terrifying). Thank you to my coach, Rachel, for the opportunity!
During this episode, sponsored by BITCHSTIX, Previnex, and Cure Hydration, we talk about:
Intro from my coach, Rachel Sinders, since this interview took place LIVE! During the very first Team RMR Running Retreat Running at a D1 school in college at The University of Evansville How she started dating her husband during senior year of high school and all through college even though they were 4.5 hours apartThe fact that she ran 19 miles with a friend during a marathon she wasn’t running Why she got into running in the first place Highlights of her collegiate career - 5K school record (17:27 - that she went on to beat last year after becoming a mom of two) Her first marathon at the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon in 2015, the year after she graduated and the year she got married Finding Coach Matt Ebersole of Personal Best Training (PBT)What it’s like to be an Army wifeHaving her first baby during COVIDGetting the Olympic Trials Qualifying time before the window was open in 2017 and then thankfully doing it again at Grandma’s in 2018How she ran the 2020 Olympic Trials Marathon while 27 weeks pregnant the week before the world shut down Winning the Indianapolis Monumental Mile with her jogging stroller Other marathons she’s done: Carmel, Monumental, Grandma’s, Twin Cities, Chicago, Boston (2018)Running the Boston Marathon in 2018 the “shitty weather Des year”Q&A from Team RMRThis is a SandyBoy Productions Podcast.
Link to Indy Mini event on 5/2. Tickets on sale 3/17.
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Christine Anderson and I met because she created my favorite running fuel, Organic Pure Fuel. During this episode, sponsored by Anderson's Maple Syrup, Previnex, BITCHSTIX, and Cure Hydration (pinch me), we talk about:
Her temperature limit for running outside How I found Christine's product, Pure FuelGrowing up on a “sugar bush” in rural Wisconsin Her family’s syrup business, Anderson’s Maple Syrup and how it’s nearly 100 years oldHow she was an elementary school teacher for 25 years The El Fernando Siesta Running Club (an entirely made up club with Christine and two of her college friends)Running through McDonald’s (not the drive thru)The device she would use to track her mileage in college How her best friend, Elyse, got her into marathons When that same friend, Elyse, ran the LA Marathon with active leukemia that had just come back after nearly five years Life after losing her friend, Elyse, and saying “yes” to adventures she’d been considering like traveling with a band for a year playing the pianoHer time in Tokyo, Japan and running for mental health Signing up for her first marathon with Team in Training for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society at the Twin Cities MarathonWhy she stays until the last finisher for every marathon How her hope and dream before she dies is to run a marathon in all 50 statesRace stories from her 39 marathons: South Dakota, AlaskaJoining the family business, Anderson’s Maple Syrup, and launching Organic Pure Fuel, maple syrup in a pouch for athletes How she wants to love trail running but she’s a “chicken about falling” The best post race experience she’s had at the Houston Marathon How her parents are still living at age 96 and 90 and her dad still likes to workThis is a SandyBoy Productions Podcast.
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Rob Jackson and I met first on Instagram and then in person before the CNO Indianapolis Monumental Marathon last year. This year, he'll be racing his first marathon as an elite athlete at the 2025 Carmel (Indiana) Marathon.
During this episode, sponsored by Pure Fuel and Cure Hydration, we talk about:
How he trained for the Monumental Marathon last year by doing 2-3.5 hours on the elliptical while he was coming off of an injury and how he still incorporates it into his training
And how for his first marathon he did 99% of his training on a treadmill (spoiler alert: he ran a 2:58)
How he “struck out” having a boy and is the dad of three girls - ages 9, 6 and 4 and how he met his wife, Jordan
The incredible amount of support Jordan gives him during training and race day
His childhood experience with sports and being a little overweight
How he came to be coached by Matt Ebersole of Personal Best Training
The one triathlon he did in Indianapolis and some other races he’s done
Running with an Apple Watch in Boston and running a 3:00:00 flat (his worst race)
The “med tent” story
Thinking about the business side of running and his partner, PYNRS, a black-owned apparel company
What it’s like to be a Black Unicorn (he’s in the top 55 black men in the US) and why he says more black men don’t run marathons
His eating disorder, Orthorexia nervosa
Losing his mom and the mental side of running
SHOES! And how Rob is a sneaker-head
Why he went ghost on Strava
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Events Mentioned:
Be a SHEro 5K in Kokomo, IN on 3/8
Holliday Park Trail Run on 3/14 and 3/15 (FLM10 for 10% off)
Previous Guests Mentioned:
Matt Ebersole (EP89)
Mark Guyer (EP59)
Carly Stewart (EP53)
Jennifer Conner (EP57)
Mark Glover (EP76)
Chris Galloway (EP69)
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Curtis Hargrove is the first Canadian to join the Finish Lines & Milestones podcast. When I saw a video of Curtis running Chicago in heels I knew I had to meet him.
During this episode, sponsored by Pure Fuel and Cure Hydration, we talk about:
Where Curtis is from in Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada (recording during extreme -49°F conditions) His work as a derrickhand on a service rig with 12-14 hour shifts How he completed the Chicago Marathon in red high heels - not his first time in elevated footwear That he'll only run in heels again if using Sneex (Sara Blakely's running shoe heels) for Run DV Out of Town at Chicago 2025 How he's completed 310 marathons since starting at age 15 His fundraising of $50K honoring his grandfather and Terry Fox Surviving a dangerous party scene period before reclaiming himself by running across Canada in 2012 Walking 185 miles in 10 days wearing 4-inch heels just two weeks after his Canada journey, raising $15K for YWCA Why he's participating in the 2025 Boston Marathon for the Boston Bulldogs Running Club supporting addiction recovery DONATE HERE His 2025 plans: 3 marathons across 3 countries within 13 days and 5 of 7 World Major Marathons.. and a 100 miler... and more! Attempting a 100-mile race while intoxicated, running 7 hours before DNF'ing, and seeking redemption this October What his training and nutrition regimen involves When he won $6K playing Guitar HeroThis is a SandyBoy Productions podcast.
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Lisa Hursthas been running and raising money for Indy's belovedHolliday Park for 25 years.
During this episode, sponsored byBarilla Protein + Pasta andAthlete Bouquets, we talk about:
The Holliday Park Trail Run (3/15 and 3/15)How she started dabbling in running after her favorite workout place closedJoining a training group for her first half marathon at the Indy Mini before turning 41Her unique experience of completing a trail marathon before ever running a road marathonGetting involved in theTransRockies Run and preparing forRun the Rocks in Moab with a women's groupThe family business,N.K. Hurst Beans, and saving a 100-year-old building in downtown IndyMeeting her husband of 44 years during college Spring BreakSharing a connection through running at Lake Wawasee in Syracuse, INHer role as grandmother "GoGo" and running her granddaughter, Mia's, first half marathon at theMonumental Marathon last yearHer British heritage and father's running backgroundCreating a woman's hiking group at age 40Insights from over four decades of marriageHer passion for gardeningThe history and significance of Holliday Park's ruinsRegister for the Holliday Park Trail Run here.
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Dena Lewis is an avid endurance athlete despite not lacing up her running shoes until later in life.
**This episode does talk about assault and may be triggering for some.**
During this episode, sponsored by Barilla Protein + Pasta and Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
The fact that she runs 10-12 miles a day, 6 days a week
The SNOW they got on the beach in the Florida panhandle and what that was like
How she didn’t become a serious runner until later in life - about 21 years ago
The non-traditional sports her kids chose
Some of the races she’s done - a Ragnar in Hawaii, a triathlon after an encounter with a GREAT WHITE SHARK, Key West bridge run, her Thanksgiving Day tradition, Disney races, Rock ‘N’ Roll
Her career in medical device sales, as a stay at home mom, and a 4X entrepreneur
The not one, but two times she’s been assaulted while running and the story behind Running Mate, “Uber for runners” created to keep women runners safe
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Michael Douglass has been running for decades. After listening to David Goggins on a podcast, he decided to take his running to an entirely different level and sign up for a 100 mile race.
During this episode, sponsored by Barilla Protein+ Pasta and Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
- The temptation to address him as "Your Honor" throughout our conversation
- His two-decade journey as a recreational runner, primarily focused on personal fitness rather than races
- The unique lunchtime running community he's formed with fellow legal professionals
- Breaking ground as his immediate family's first college graduate and attorney
- Discovering and building relationships with his biological father's relatives later in life
- Taking on the Philadelphia Marathon in 2024 as his first (and only) 26.2
- Finding inspiration in David Goggins' philosophy, which propelled him to register for a 100-miler
- The dedicated support system that rallied around him
- His determination to push through mile 86, declining medical treatment
- What it felt like to cross the finish line
- A glimpse into his musical past, including opening a show for the Foo Fighters
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Joe Hardin is an ultra-marathoner, writer for RunTriBike, fellow podcast host (Beyond the Finish Line) and lives in Indiana.
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
His sobriety birthday and how his family celebrates it more than his actual birthday
The impact the pandemic had on him as he was newly sober
His upbringing that was divided between his military father and single mom
When he tried to join the military and follow in his dad’s footsteps but he couldn’t because he has asthma
His short stint in college after high school and finding a job in trade
Cassie, the mother of his kids and woman he’s married twice
The night he put down his last drink
How he got into woodworking and started his business, HT Hardwood Designs
His weight-loss journey that started the day after his first sobriety birthday
The first race he ever did at 38 years old, a Thanksgiving 5K, the Gravy Chase
Finding his way to the Prairie on Fire backyard ultra and running his first ultra marathon (link to the John Kuhn film)
The weirdest thing he’s eaten during an ultra marathon
His IT100 miler DNF (did not finish) and PSA to wear bug spray to help avoid getting Lyme disease
Hallucinating during an ultra and what he thought he saw (it’s so random)
RunTriBike and Joe’s friendship with the founders, Aum Gandhi (EP12) and Jason Bahamundi
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Betsy Mikel and I have known each other for over a decade because of our shared running hobby. But she is way cooler than I am. During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
How we met through a mutual running friend (Kim Bowers) that I met through a running friend (Celina Bourgeois)
Her marathon PR at the Philadelphia Marathon and the fact that I was somehow her good luck charm
The 2024 Chicago Marathon, her 10th marathon and her first postpartum marathon, and the other Chicago marathons she’s run
How her son, Otto, was born on Chicago Marathon weekend, making it an even more special weekend for her
Her experience working with a sports nutritionist, Lydia Nader
Three Run Two, her Chicago running group
How interesting of a relationship it is to be running buddies with someone
How she got into running marathons in the first place (her first when she was 18)
Fueling for races and using Gatorade patches to measure sweat rate
Other race stories - St. Louis, Big Cottonwood, Philadelphia, Twin Cities
How she has no aspirations to run the New York City Marathon
How she knew she was going to be writer since she was a little girl
The fact that she grew up in a historic house built by the same architect who designed Chicago’s first skyscraper
The memoir she’s writing and how similar it feels to running a marathon
Her world travels before and after having her son, Otto
How she loves her Asics
Podcast episode Betsey mentioned - You're Wrong About with Rosie Ruiz
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Kallie Bonnell has been a friend of mine for a long time. We got closer during a Ragnar Relay adventure in September 2024. Read my recap here.
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
How I roped Kallie into joining my Ragnar team because she is a yes person when it comes to new experiences
The story of when we thought the battery on our Ragnar van died overnight
Getting through her last leg of the race even though it sucked
Her upbringing in a small farm town in Northern Indiana
How her and some college friends came up with their own Little “Little” 500 at Indiana University that involved a stationary bike and alcohol
Training for her first half marathon in 2009
Calling off a wedding less than 30 days before the actual wedding and using running to get through it
Losing her mom unexpectedly and not being able to move or run at all
The car accident that happened the night before we were doing the Rock ‘n’ Roll Vegas half marathon (and how we both peed our pants)
Her three knee surgeries in three years
Traveling for fun and for work (she’s been to Russia and has a Russian visa)
Why she doesn’t do the dating apps anymore (she’s looking for actual dates and someone with a passport, people!)
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Matt Ebersole is a staple in the Indianapolis running community and beyond. Thus why I introduce him as THE Matt Ebersole.
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
- How PBT (Personal Best Training) got the color of their singlets
- The fact that he’s from Northern Indiana (Fort Wayne) and wanted to play football but ended up running instead
- His first race, a local 15K on September 1, 1980
- When he was in cross country and the worst on the team
- How his career started with Finish Line in Atlanta
- Meeting Coach Roy Benson in Atlanta and how that changed the trajectory of his life
- Taking the leap and taking PBT full time
- His own PRs (all in the rain) and his high sweat rate
- Dropping out of a race - how he refers to it as a “disease”
- The team dynamic of PBT
- What he does when an athlete is heartbroken at the end of a race
- His thoughts on athletes chasing a Boston Marathon qualifying time
- Celebrating success and firing athletes
- Diversity in the sport of running and coaching Robert Jackson
- The elite athlete recruitment he does for Beyond Monumental (CNO Indianapolis Monumental Marathon)
- His interview with Olympic Champion, Cole Hocker, at the Monumental expo
- Becoming a grandpa for the first time!
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Mike Cole has been in the pizza business for 30+ years, so when he was going to go after a world record, running a sub-marathon with a 14" pizza made sense.
During this episode we talk about:
What a great day the 2024 Monumental Marathon was
Deciding to challenge himself at age 49 and run 12 marathons in 12 months
His Guinness Book of World Record for fastest marathon while holding a 14” pizza set this year at the Mill Race Marathon
How he’s been in the pizza business for over 30 years with Greek’s Pizza
The twelve marathons he ran in 2024
January - Sarasota, FL
February - St. Petersburg, FL
March - Chattanooga, TN
April - Carmel, IN
May - Cleveland, OH
June - Leadville, CO Marathon
July - San Francisco, CA
August - Leadville 100 Miler
September - Columbus, IN
October - Columbus, OH
November - Indianapolis, IN
December - Rocket City, AL
Running the Leadville 100 Miler while in the midst of doing his 12 marathons (YouTube Video)
How he got beat by a guy wearing jeans and cowboy boots during his first 5K road race
How the worst thing in his life gave him the best things in his life
The formation of Indiana Elite
His three boys - Logan, Skyler and Aiden
The fact that he can pick the sound of a cello out in a song
Setting up their life to be in Colorado in the summers and Florida in the winters
When he was hit by a car in his neighborhood while running
A horrible accident that killed his uncle when Mike was in high school that he attributes to making him a better runner
How his whole family is vegan and he’s “almost Vegan”
The fact that him and his wife, Julie, founded the Zionsville Half Marathon and how we both can’t believe there isn’t a Zionsville Running Club
Thank you to Fringe Heals for supporting this episode. Use code ALLY25 for 25% off your order through 12/31/24.
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Amy Shinneman was born with Muscular Dystrophy but wasn't diagnosed until the age of 44. During this episode, we talk about:
How her and her husband, Jamie, did the 50th year at Berlin and NYC … maybe Marine Corps Marathon in 2025? Tokyo in 2027?
All about the Berlin Marathon and getting to Europe for the first time
Tackling the World Majors and how they’re thinking about it
Living undiagnosed with a rare form of Muscular Dystrophy for 44 years
What it was like becoming a mom with an (unknown) disability
How she finally got a diagnosis of Bethlem Myopathy and how life was different after
The MDA and the work she’s done with them
What it’s like being a mom with a disability
How her husband, Jamie, got into running because of their kids
Getting a duo bike from MDA and doing her first marathon with her husband pushing at the Chicago Marathon
How her son finished third in his age group at the New York City Marathon and received a Tiffany’s plate
Race experiences and what she keeps in the duo bike during a race
How one of her sons taught her to run on an underwater treadmill
Using stem cell therapy as a way to treat MD
The mental health side of having a disability
“Once you’ve met a person with a disability, you’ve met one person with a disability”
The fact that people judge her (and have screamed at her) for parking in an accessible parking spot
Thank you to Fringe Heals for supporting this episode. Use code ALLY25 for 25% off your order through 12/31/24.
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Stephanie Woods is a walking (er, running) example of resilience. She's been through a lot in her life and just keeps moving forward. We met through her husband, Timmy Howard, who was episode 54 of this podcast (listen here).
During this episode, sponsored by Fringe Heals, we talk about:
- Her Tecumseh 50K win “I got up. I ran. I won.”
- How her and her husband, Timmy got married at Tecumseh
- That she went straight from a half marathon to an ultra marathon (50K)
- Normatec compression boots
- How she wasn’t in sports growing up but grew up playing the piano and flute
- How her late dog, Pongo, was the reason she got into running after college to help him lose weight
- Her educational background in music education and classroom education
- The DOGS!! Savo, Atalanta, Leander aka The Herd
- Meeting Timmy through the November Project and Steph’s side of his story
- What it’s like having your husband be a race photographer
- Her dad’s stomach cancer battle
- Getting hit by a car while running and waking up under a dump truck
- Timmy’s Ironman in Lake Placid and the Athletic documentary, Inches to Miles
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Also sponsored by Athlete Bouquets.
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Gabby Behr is the President of the Carmel Runners Club (that I accidentally call the Carmel Running Club during this episode, please forgive me, CRC).
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
Going from her goal race in September to Rim to Rim in the Grand Canyon in November
Losing toenails (she was down to 6.5 at the time of our interview)
Her huge PR at Big Cottonwood in Utah - 3:16
Qualifying for Boston and missing 2025 because of the buffer
How she’s been running since she was a kid
Being a part of the Purdue Running Club
Why she joined the Carmel Runners Club after college as a way to make friends and she’s now the President of the club
Going from racing to pacing a sub two hour marathon within a year
How Gabby and I met when we both worked at Fleet Feet at the same time
Some of the travel races she’s done with the club to Wisconsin, Arkansas, Maine, Alaska…
The record player her grandma gifted her
How she’s going to be running as an elite for the Indy Mini next May
Running for *gasp* fun!
Her pre and during race routines and what fuel we both use
How she popped out the lenses of some Goodrs and had them made as her everyday glasses she wears at work
Medal Wall We Talked About
Pegboard for said medal wall ^^
Hooks for medals to hang on wall ^^
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Kallup McCoy went from doing Men's Health magazine workouts in jail to being featured in Men's Health magazine for his crazy story.
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
His magical, hard-fought marathon PR in Indy at the Monumental Marathon that took years and multiple attempts to achieve
A crazy race morning story that gives me anxiety just thinking about it
What it was like growing up Native American
How he was exposed to prescription narcotics at the age of 11
Losing his dad to illness and how Kallup using in his hospital room still wasn’t his rock bottom
How the life changing moment came when he was in jail
His relationships with his two sons
Where the name Kallup comes from
The fact that his addiction wasn’t entirely over after he got out of jail
Running a portion of The Trail of Tears the bike race he wanted to do wouldn’t allow him to enter as a convicted felon
Other ultramarathons Kallup has DNFd and completed
Starting his business as a running coach and starting a non-profit organization, RezHope
The God wink of God winks
His 2025 run across the United States slated to start in mid-March
How Kallup knows Kara and Adam Goucher
The Runner’s High documentary and how it all came together
Living near Asheville and the impact of the hurricane
Kallup's YouTube channel
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Whitney Miller and I met at a race expo and I've been wanting to get to know her better. So here we are!
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
How much I love her gray hair (she’s had it since she was 16)
Swimming from age 6 through college. What it was like being a collegiate swimmer.
Hating running during the time she was a swimmer
That she knew she wanted to be a teacher since she was 6 and how it was so devastating when teaching elementary didn't work for her
Finding health and life coaching and how it changed her life
How she started running after college because she didn’t know what else to do
Her first marathon in Napa Valley in 2013
A hip injury she dealt with on and off for 8 years
What her relationship with running is like now
Losing her dog suddenly 4 days before the first women’s running retreat she hosted
Her business, Transcend Training and Performance
Being inducted into the NCAA Hall of Fame for swimming and how she had to reframe her mindset to appreciate the honor
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Nathan Partain started running marathons when he was 64 years old. 🤯 During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
The crowds at the World Majors he’s run - New York City (‘24), Boston (‘22, ‘24) and London (‘23)
Running the 2024 New York City Marathon with Imerman Angels
How he started running marathons after he retired in 2020
Having to defer and drop out of races because of injury
How we met randomly on a golf course and I asked if I could interview him
Life before marathons - Texas > Chicago > Indy
His three kids and the fact that they all run too
His favorite part of the London Marathon and the first bridge of NYC
Nick Hauger, his running coach who runs for HOKA Northern Arizona Elite and why he got a coach
How he’s saving the Chicago Marathon for his last World Major Marathon
His race experiences at Houston, Mesa, and Woodlands
Why he now wears bright colored clothes when he races
The unexpected downside of having his name on his shirt in NYC
Other places in the world he’s gotten to run
Climbing Kilimanjaro with his daughter TWICE
The fact that he was a DJ at a nightclub in college
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Jackie Dikos and I met when we had booths next to each other at a marathon expo earlier this year. I bought her book, Finish Line Fueling, and knew I wanted to hear her story.
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
The fact that she’s one of NINE kids and how that impacted how she played sports growing up (i.e. having to run to practice and run home)
Getting married at 21 right out of college
Her first Chicago Marathon at 22 in 2001
Working with Coach Matt Ebersole and making it to the Olympic Trials in the Marathon
How she fell in love with running on a different level after having her first son
Why she’s never run Flying Pig even though that’s where she’s from
Getting to the line of her first Olympic Trials and finishing in last place
Then how it felt to win the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon in 2010 to qualify for the Olympic Trials again
The different places her husband’s career took her and her family
Why she was drawn to the field of dietetics
Her foot injury before the Virginia Beach Marathon and having to walk off while she was in first place
The story behind Field Brewing and the inaugural Field Brewing 5K
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Jordan Huffman and I met through our running coach, Rachel Sinders. Jordan just completed her 9th Marine Corps Marathon and still had the marathon hobble to prove it!
During this episode, sponsored by Athlete Bouquets, we talk about:
The 49th Marine Corps Marathon How she ran 10 miles of the MCM and then snuck off the course to hide her first pregnancy Her first Indianapolis Monumental and her first non-MCM marathon Both of us contemplating running the 50th Marine Corps Marathon next year How she found running to find connection while her husband was deployed overseas What it’s like being a military spouse and how her husband has supported her goals from afar How it's hard saying goodbye to running strollers Her 76-year-old dad finishing the MCM skipping after taking a shot of Fireball Running a virtual marathon before an 8:30am soccer game How spectating and volunteering might actually be harder than running a marathon Meeting through our running coach, Rachel Sinders, and why we love working with a running coach Taylor Swift concert in Indy What it’s like having a husband who works for a commercial airlineIf you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe, share and review!
- Visa fler