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Eric Stein is a Partner at East Bay Investment Solutions, a firm that offers fractional Chief Investment Officer services, supporting over $6 billion in assets under advisement across 26 advisory firm clients. In this episode, we discuss how Eric leverages his extensive investment expertise not by managing portfolios for individual clients as a traditional financial advisor, but rather by embracing his role as an 'investment nerd' serving as a fractional Chief Investment Officer, supporting multiple advisory firms and their clients.
Listen in as Eric shares how his fractional Chief Investment Officer service operates, providing investment research, portfolio design, and market commentary while leaving portfolio implementation up to the advisor themselves. He also discusses his winding career path, from commercial banking to Goldman Sachs Asset Management and as a CIO for a national RIA, to his current role, which he found after a careful 'dating' process with his business partner to ensure their visions aligned. Eric also reflects on his experiences across large national businesses and smaller firms, emphasizing the importance of role exploration, effective management practices, and learning from both successes and failures to navigate challenges that arise.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/403
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John Mason is the President of Mason & Associates, an RIA based out of Virginia that oversees $370 million in assets under management for approximately 390 client households. What's unique about John, though, is how joining a firm that served the niche of Federal government employees allowed him to quickly accelerate his own learning curve and demonstrate his expertise early in his career as a 20-something—ultimately enabling him to more quickly begin bringing in his own clients.
Listen in as John shares how his firm’s specialization in serving Federal employees allows it to operate efficiently and develop deep relationships with clients, and how his firm generates client leads through a podcast focusing on the issues facing its ideal target client. He also discusses his firm's transition from a broker-dealer to the RIA model, which boosted its per-client revenue while bringing down all-in costs for clients, how he managed the delicate process of transitioning unprofitable clients to more suitable advisors, why he thinks fee-only advisors sometimes underrate the importance of insurance planning, and more.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/402
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Zack Hubbard is the Director of Financial Planning and Participant Engagement of Greenspring Advisors, an RIA based out of Maryland that manages $2 billion of private wealth assets under management for 1,300 client households and advises on an additional $5 billion in retirement plan assets. Zack and his firm have developed a financial wellness offering that profitably delivers both self-serve technology and direct one-on-one financial advice to employees of businesses using their fiduciary 401(k) services. This approach not only supports plan participants, but also generates a steady stream of referrals for his firm’s private wealth services.
Listen in as Zack shares how his firm uses a three-tiered approach to fiduciary financial wellness for 401(k) plan participants, comprising of education, one-on-one advice, and implementation support, how his firm develops new advisors by allowing them to have many 'at bats' with retirement plan participants, and how he made the decision to shift from client-facing roles to his current position as a manager.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/401
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Mark Tibergien is the former CEO of Pershing Advisor Solutions, a former Principal with Moss Adams Consulting, and a longtime practice management consultant and thought leader in the financial advisory industry. Over his 50-year career in financial services, Mark has witnessed the evolution of the financial advice industry and has actively defined best practices for advisory firms aiming to scale up and build enduring businesses. His extensive experience has enabled him to measure and track the key strategies that help firms not just grow in size, but also enhance their scalability and operational efficiency.
In this episode, Mark shares his insights on the crucial distinction between growing in size and truly scaling an advisory firm, emphasizing that genuine scale is achieved when revenue increases outpace expenses. He also discusses the ongoing industry consolidation and outlines the different types of firms looking to acquire RIAs—financial, tactical, and strategic buyers—highlighting how smaller firms can still thrive by focusing on local excellence or specific client demographics. Listen in to learn about the importance of proactive succession planning and defining personal measures of success, which influence both strategic decisions and the broader impact of the advisory business on the community and the industry.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/400
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Kelli Kiemle is the Managing Director of Growth and Client Experience of Halbert Hargrove, an RIA based out of California that oversees $3.1 billion in assets under management for 75 households. Kelli uniquely spearheads initiatives at Halbert Hargrove to uphold the firm’s four core values and foster a strong corporate culture, a critical task as the company expands to 50 employees across 10 offices in the western United States. This growth makes even their in-person offices effectively 'remote' and 'virtual' relative to the leadership at the firm's main headquarters.
Listen in as Kelli shares how she has implemented effective communication and relationship-building programs at Halbert Hargrove, including biannual in-person meetings and weekly all-hands sessions to enhance accountability and integrate new hires through a formal two-year mentorship program. She discusses initiatives that reinforce the firm’s core values—like sharing 'Gladiator Stories' and 'Goofs That Give Us Guidance'—and aligns employee benefits with these values by supporting education, charitable contributions, and family care, while also managing a unique vacation policy to prevent burnout. Additionally, Kelli explains her strategic role in growing the firm’s AUM past $3 billion, utilizing external PR and SEO, and integrating sales coaching to enhance client acquisition efforts without compromising the firm’s fiduciary commitments.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/399
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Eric Wulff is the CEO of Marcum Wealth, an RIA based out of Cleveland that oversees $2.5 billion in assets under management for approximately 2,700 households. Eric has uniquely developed Marcum Wealth into a multi-billion-dollar firm under the umbrella of a national accounting firm, largely by fostering mutually beneficial relationships with internal CPAs to secure referrals of their accounting clients to his financial planning business. This strategy has effectively integrated and leveraged the firm's existing services to expand its client base and enhance its financial planning division.
Listen in as Eric shares his strategic approach to generating internal referrals at his firm, using a "give to get" philosophy with CPAs to ensure his advisors are top of mind for financial planning referrals, especially through exit planning services that help maintain CPA-client relationships beyond traditional business needs. He also explains how his firm standardizes financial planning across national offices through a centralized team, the effectiveness of presenting detailed financial plans to prospects before they commit, and his targeted acquisition strategy focusing on growth-minded mid-career advisors.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/398
Headers:
What Marcum Wealth Looks Like Today [6:35]
Using A Team-Based Approach To Building Financial Plans [16:10]
Linking Marcum Wealth's Planning Process To Its Asset Allocation Frameworks [28:44]
Converting Prospects Into Clients Through The Plan Delivery Process [33:06]
How Marcum Wealth Generates Referrals From Its Attached CPA Firm [46:10]
Dividing Advisory Teams By Geography And Client Segments [57:43]
Marcum Wealth's Strategic Approach To Acquisitions [1:04:21]
What Surprised Eric The Most Building An Advisory Business [1:15:40]
The Low Point On Eric's Journey [1:17:34]
What Eric Would Tell His Younger Self [1:22:58]
Eric's Advice For Younger Advisors [1:24:15]
What Success Means To Eric [1:27:25]The following contains the thoughts and opinions of Eric Wulff, CEO, of Marcum Wealth, LLC. Marcum Wealth is an investment adviser registered with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training. The statements herein are intended as brand and general educational and informational content only, and no viewer should construe any statements as an offer of Marcum Wealth’s advisory services. Viewers are encouraged to discuss the content of this broadcast with, and direct any questions to, the financial professional of their choosing.
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Jaime Benedetti is the Managing Principal of Benedetti, Gucer, and Associates and BEAM Wealth Advisors, hybrid advisory firms based out of Georgia and Louisiana that oversee a total of $1.2-billion in assets under management for approximately 900 households. Jaime's firm has uniquely expanded to over $1 billion in AUM over the last 20 years, largely through six strategic acquisitions of mixed fee-and-commission practices from retiring local advisors, which he successfully converted into ongoing, recurring revenue financial planning clients - an approach that has not only fueled growth but also streamlined the firm’s revenue model into a more predictable and sustainable framework.
Listen in as Jaime shares how he has skillfully managed the acquisition of firms with assets ranging from under $10 million to nearly $500 million, evolving from using personal funding sources to securing bank-financed loans that cover the full purchase price. He explains his strategic approach to converting acquired firms from commission-based to fee-based models, details his method for identifying potential acquisition targets through a combination of recruiters, marketplaces, and networking, and shares the importance of taking time to integrate new acquisitions thoroughly, which has not only retained clients but also attracted sellers who prioritize the welfare of their clients post-acquisition.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/397
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Michelle Klisanich is a Wealth Advisor for Financially Wise Divorce, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Minnesota that oversees $87-million in assets under management for 91 households. Michelle stands out by effectively applying insights gained from multiple business coaches throughout her career, enabling her to precisely target and market to her desired clientele—women undergoing divorce. This focus allows her to transition these women into long-term advisory clients, with whom she builds deep, enduring relationships.
Listen in as Michelle shares how she developed a structured process to guide clients through divorce, linking them with pre-vetted professionals and providing a roadmap for life post-divorce, while ensuring they are interested in ongoing advisory relationships. She discusses leveraging her early career challenges and business coaching to specialize in divorce planning, using online networking to build influential connections and streamline her client base from 350 to 90 focused, profitable relationships. Michelle also reflects on how her personal divorce experience inspired her to help similar women, overcoming "impostor syndrome" by gaining confidence through small wins and recommending that newer advisors learn from experienced colleagues to navigate early career challenges.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/396
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Dustin Mangone is the Director of Investment Advisor Services of PPL Loan, a firm based out of Texas that facilitates conventional bank loans to financial advisors. Dustin's firm uniquely enables financial advisors to access bank lending—a traditionally difficult source of debt capital in the advisory industry—for financing various transactions, including RIA and independent broker-dealer acquisitions, internal succession plans, and other growth initiatives. This approach provides vital support for advisors looking to expand or transition their businesses.
Listen in as Dustin shares how his firm partners with banks to provide loans to financial advisors purchasing advisory firms, enabling sellers to receive the purchase price upfront and increasing loan amounts as advisor repayment success grows. He discusses the key financial metrics used to determine loan amounts for mergers and acquisitions, such as the buyer’s capitalization and the selling firm’s recurring revenue, and explains how these loans support both full purchases and partial buy-ins during internal firm successions. Dustin also touches on current trends in advisory firm valuations, the differences between conventional bank loans and Small Business Administration loans, and the continued robust financing opportunities for advisory firm transactions, underscoring the inherent stability of these businesses due to their long-term client relationships.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/395
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Christi Van Rite is the Founder of White River Consultants, a firm that provides administrative family office services to 17 ultra-high-net-worth households. Christi, whose firm is on track to generate nearly $1.5M in revenue this year, offers her insights into the complexities of managing extensive personal finances. You'll learn about the four primary pillars of Christi's services—personal bookkeeping, payroll for household employees, property management, and information and document management—and how each of these plays a role in maintaining financial order and security.
Join us as we delve into Christi's journey from a traditional financial advisor to a leader in administrative family office services. You'll hear about her strategies for managing the financial needs of complex client households, the importance of using a client-owned tech stack for flexibility, and the role of robust referral pipelines in growing her business. Christi also shares her approach to curating, onboarding, and training specialized team members, managing risks associated with serving high-dollar families, and why she believes this niche is a fulfilling career path for financial advisors.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/394
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Alex Lewis is the owner of Blackbridge Financial, a hybrid advisory firm based out of South Carolina that oversees approximately $330 million in assets under management for 415 households. At just 29 years old, Alex boldly acquired his firm through a multi-million-dollar loan, stepping in as the successor to the founder. Over the past four years, he has transformed the business by overhauling the staff, technology, and service structure—nearly doubling the firm’s AUM in the process.
Listen in as Alex shares how he gained trust and smoothly transitioned into ownership by increasing his client-facing roles and negotiating a seller-financed purchase, setting the stage for financial challenges that included managing a hefty initial loan payment. You'll learn how his firm categorizes clients into five service tiers, tailors experiences with personal touches like preferred beverages, and expands the team to uphold a high-touch service model, ensuring each advisor manages no more than 150 clients. We also discuss Alex’s career shift from public accounting to financial planning, his strategic fee adjustments that reinforced client trust, and his use of influential business strategies from books to continuously refine and grow the firm he envisioned.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/393
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Kristopher Heck is a Founding Partner of Tanager Wealth Management, an RIA based out of London that oversees approximately $1.1 billion in assets under management for 630 households. Kristopher's firm stands out by scaling to over a billion dollars in AUM, specializing in serving clients with financial and personal ties to both the United States and the United Kingdom, a niche lacking a standard playbook. This unique focus on complex transatlantic tax, estate, and planning issues has allowed them to develop a highly differentiated expertise in the marketplace over the past decade.
Listen in as Kristopher shares his journey of founding Tanager Wealth, drawing on his personal experiences as a US expatriate to specialize in cross-border US-UK financial planning. He explains how his firm fosters a learning environment through internal blogs, videos, and lunch-and-learns, as well as how establishing early partnerships with other expatriate-focused professionals has cultivated a robust referral network. We also discuss the structure of separate advisory and planning teams that enhance career development and knowledge sharing within the firm, highlighting the importance of combining the right people and technology to effectively scale and succeed in the financial advisory landscape.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/392
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Christopher Jones is the Founder of Sparrow Wealth Management, an RIA based out of Orlando that oversees approximately $110 million in assets under management for 69 households. Chris has distinguished himself by building a highly efficient solo practice that operates under 25 hours per week, enabling him to spend more time with his family. He achieved this by concentrating solely on the most crucial financial planning tasks for his clients—and outsourcing or eliminating all other activities.
Listen in as Chris shares how he streamlines his financial planning process by collaboratively working through plans during annual meetings, focusing on clients’ goals instead of detailed cash flow analyses, and managing cash requests through a single annual distribution. He explains his efficiency improvements through a curated tech stack of specialized AdvisorTech products and the strategic decision to manually update client balances, a move away from excessive customization that has significantly grown his AUM. We also discuss how transitioning to a remote practice has allowed Chris to live closer to family, how he generates referrals from well-connected clients, and his approach to managing perfectionism by outsourcing tasks to alleviate time constraints and reduce anxiety.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/391
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Brent Carnduff is the Founder of Advisor Rankings, a marketing firm based out of Idaho that specializes in search engine optimization for financial advisors. Brent's firm uniquely assists advisors by enhancing their organic SEO through targeted content creation, designed to attract prospects with specific planning needs, and also boosts advisors' local SEO, ensuring top placement in Google rankings when consumers search for nearby financial advisors.
Listen in as Brent shares how he guides advisors to enhance their local SEO by starting with a fully optimized Google Business Profile and encouraging systematic client reviews to improve search rankings and increase website traffic. We also discuss strategies for boosting organic SEO, the importance of serving a specific niche for better Google rankings, the different timelines for seeing results with local versus organic SEO, and how hiring a coach has transformed Brent's business practices, enabling him to focus on delivering top-tier SEO advice.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/390
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Mark Berg is the Founder of Timothy Financial Counsel, an RIA based out of Illinois that's on track to generate $5 million in annual revenue this year serving 800 households. Mark's firm stands out for its rapid growth, scaling from $1.8 million to $5 million in revenue within just six years while maintaining a 25% profit margin, achieved entirely through an hourly fee model.
Listen in as Mark shares how he structured his firm to succeed with an hourly fee model, his strategic implementation of time-tracking software for efficient billing and capacity management, and how he uses a client waitlist to handle increasing demand. We also discuss Mark’s innovative approach to scaling the firm by hiring a president without a financial planning background, as well as why he sees the hourly fee model as a vast opportunity for reaching a broader client base.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/389
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Freeman Linde is the cofounder of La Crosse Financial Planning, an RIA based out of Wisconsin that oversees nearly $50 million in assets under management for 73 clients. Despite industry norms suggesting the need for tens of millions in assets to go independent, Freeman launched his own RIA with just $7M in AUM, shared with a business partner. Leveraging the freedom to create an SEO-optimized website tailored to their local community, they rapidly expanded the firm to $40M in less than four years.
Listen in as Freeman shares his strategic decision to operate as an independent RIA, utilizing a custom spreadsheet to analyze and favor the financial benefits over traditional broker-dealer models, including flat-cost expense management and the ability to offer lower client costs while raising AUM fees. He also discusses how adopting a focused local SEO strategy and creating distinct websites for niche markets accelerated his firm's growth, as well as his effective client-conversion approach. You'll hear how expanding his service offerings has solidified client loyalty and supported a sustainable business model that prioritizes recurring revenue over constant new client acquisition, inspiring newer advisors to start in fee-only environments.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/388
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Today we're joined by Jenny Martella, Principal and Wealth Manager at Modera Wealth Management, whose unique journey in the financial advisory world saw her and her partner achieving remarkable success in growing their firm from $19 million to $250 million in assets under management within 7 years. Jenny and her previous partner were so successful that they decided to seek a merger with Modera Wealth, a much larger enterprise, so they could focus on their strengths. In this episode, we explore Jenny's strategies for growth, the challenges of operational responsibilities, and the decision-making process behind merging with a larger firm.
Listen in as Jenny discusses the intricacies of the merger process, from exploring potential partners to navigating the transition of clients and brand identity. She also shares lessons about managing change, adapting to new technologies, and finding her place within the larger organization. You'll learn about her methods for effective client communication and maintaining personal inspiration in the face of professional challenges, ideas for preserving brand identity during a merger, and more.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/387
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Dann Ryan is a Managing Partner at Sincerus Advisory, an RIA based in New York City that oversees approximately $165 million in assets under management for nearly 150 client households. Despite 17 years in the financial advisory business, Dann's persistent imposter syndrome fuels his anxiety before every client meeting, driving him to maintain high standards and accountability. This relentless pursuit of excellence has enabled Dann to build a thriving financial planning business that consistently attracts new client referrals.
Listen in as Dann shares how he and his partner have successfully quintupled their AUM in five years through exceptional client service that spurred referrals and led to a waitlist system, and why they continue to use an AUM fee model despite a shift towards more planning-centric services. He discusses his early career at a fee-only advisory when such paths were less common, the long hours spent building financial plans as crucial career investments, and his decision to start his own firm after not becoming a partner at his previous job. We also explore his agile approach to financial planning, his openness to incorporating clients' investment ideas, and how serving a diverse client base while building lasting relationships has helped manage his imposter syndrome and enhance his career success.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/386
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Danielle Howard is the owner of Wealth By Design, a hybrid advisory firm based out of Colorado that oversees about $35 million in assets under advisement for 35 client households. Danielle's unique "Financial Fingerprints To Footprints" process assists clients who have difficulty implementing financial plans by uncovering and addressing their money memories. This approach helps them understand how past financial lessons shape their current financial identities and may hinder future goal achievement.
Listen in as Danielle shares how she structures her financial planning engagements, using a 5-meeting sequence focused on understanding the client’s financial situation and the psychological factors influencing their money management. She discusses her transition to a planning-centric business, influenced by personal experiences with life planning questions, and explains how she adapts her client headcount to suit different life stages. We also explore the unique contributions women can make in the financial planning industry, Danielle’s evolving definition of success, and the personalized career paths available in the industry that allow for personal fulfillment while aiding clients in achieving their financial goals.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/385
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Hannah Provost is a partner and financial advisor at Lomanto Provost Financial Advisors, a hybrid advisory firm based out of New York State that oversees approximately $150 million in assets under management for 380 households. Hannah's unique journey in finance began with retail banking, progressing from lending and teller roles to a bank-based financial advisor, before she decided to broaden her expertise by working as an assistant under a seasoned advisor. This strategic move enriched her skills and knowledge, eventually propelling her to become a lead advisor and later a joint partner in the firm.
Listen in as Hannah shares her journey of balancing work, family, and education to advance her career, emphasizing how the CFP certification guided her path and how early participation in client meetings fast-tracked her to a lead advisor role. She also reveals how leveraging community visibility and smart automation tools has been key to managing a growing client base, the importance of seeking supportive mentors as "green flags" in the industry, and how her early investments have paid off in a successful practice and robust work-life balance.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/384
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