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We live in a world where “connections” are made with a click, but real collaboration takes more than a follow and a like. How do we build relationships that actually last?
In Part One, I sit down with Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen, two former Disney colleagues who turned workplace synergy into a decade-long friendship and a thriving business partnership. Now, they’re co-authoring a book to help others master the art of collaboration.
In Part Two, we’ll break down their framework—five key behaviors and a “noble purpose” approach that makes teamwork more than just a buzzword.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why Telling People to ‘Collaborate’ Doesn’t Actually Work
“Think you can just tell your team to collaborate and expect magic? Think again. Collaboration isn’t one action—it’s a mix of behaviors, and it starts with the individual, not fancy tools or technologies.”
Why Collaboration Equals Innovation
“Collaboration boosts innovation exponentially. It’s not about wasting time competing with colleagues; it’s about working together to solve problems and deliver innovative solutions that make your company stand out.”
Noble Purpose: More Than Just Vision and Mission
“Leaders need to remind their teams of the noble purpose behind their work. Whether it’s delivering diapers or developing apps, connecting individuals to the bigger impact they have on customers is key to motivation and collaboration.”
The Hidden Barriers to Teamwork: Why Collaboration Fails
“From egos to insecurities, collaboration struggles often stem from within. True teamwork begins by addressing these internal challenges, transforming both ourselves and our workplace relationships.”
Why Gratitude and Generosity Aren’t Just Nice-to-Haves
“Generosity creates safety, resourcefulness unlocks solutions, and gratitude gives teams the chance to rest and recover. Together, these behaviors make collaboration more than a buzzword—they make it work.”
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We live in a world where “connections” are made with a click, but real collaboration takes more than a follow and a like. How do we build relationships that actually last?
In this episode, I sit down with Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen, two former Disney colleagues who turned workplace synergy into a decade-long friendship and a thriving business partnership. Now, they’re co-authoring a book to help others master the art of collaboration.
In Part Two, we’ll break down their framework—five key behaviors and a “noble purpose” approach that makes teamwork more than just a buzzword.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Emotional Banking: The Secret to Long-Lasting Work Relationships
“Relationships at work thrive on trust, respect, and mutual goals. By making consistent positive deposits into the ‘emotional bank,’ teams can evolve into high-performing units. Delivering results is key, but so is showing up for each other and building something lasting, as Trish and I found over a three-year project.”
Collaboration Isn’t Just Tools—It’s Human Connection
“The business world is spending almost $40 billion on collaboration tools, which are a band-aid for our failures to communicate. If you don’t have the human behaviours of generosity, resourcefulness, co-creation, action, and gratitude, no technology is going to help your team be happy or collaborate better.”
Be the Change You Seek—Gandhi’s Wisdom for Collaboration
“There’s a great quote by Gandhi: ‘Create the change you want to be.’ That’s the foundation of our collaboration model—being the change and the leader your team is asking you to be.”
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So you’re stuck in a job that doesn’t excite you. Or maybe you’re climbing the corporate ladder but have no idea if it’s leaning against the right wall.
Gary Bremermann has seen it all—from ambitious professionals chasing paychecks without purpose to companies struggling to hire the right talent. In Part 2, he lays out his 7 Rules of Career Clarity—a process he developed to help people find meaningful work, instead of just another job.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Step 1: Your Story Matters – “Your past holds clues to your future. Look back to move forward.” Why reflecting on your experiences can reveal what you truly want.
Step 4: Dream Jobs (Yes, Plural) – “One dream job should be unlimited, the other should be realistic. Somewhere in between is your future.” How to define career goals without setting yourself up for disappointment.
Step 7: Action is Everything – “All the career clarity in the world is useless if you don’t act on it.” Why small, consistent steps matter more than waiting for the perfect opportunity.
The Harsh Reality of Japan’s Talent Market – “People are forced to retire at 60, then offered the same job at 40% pay. Meanwhile, companies struggle to find talent. It makes no sense.” Why Japan’s hiring practices are outdated—and how ageism is holding back experienced professionals.
Risk Aversion vs. Career Growth – “The fear of change is stronger here than in most markets. But staying in your comfort zone can cost you more than taking a risk.” Why job seekers and companies alike need to rethink stability.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in your career—or frustrated by job markets that refuse to evolve—this episode is a must-listen. Get ready for a reality check on work, growth, and what’s next.
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Part Two.
A rainy-day idea, a pair of walking shoes, and a determined teenager—what could go wrong? For Chris Schrader, it led to something extraordinary. A simple trek across England turned into a five-figure fundraiser and the start of a global movement. In Part One, the 24 Hour Race founder shares how a tribute to a friend sparked a worldwide fight against human trafficking, raising over $20 million across 25 cities. Turns out, big change starts with small steps.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From the Wilderness to the Workplace: Business Team Building 401
“Business is a watered-down version of an expedition, and an expedition is a hyperbolic version of business. The success of both depends on understanding team dynamics—bridging the gap between the strongest and weakest players.”
“Your performance isn’t defined by your best players; it’s defined by your weakest. In the expedition world, you have two choices—get rid of your weakest link or rein in your top performers.”
Don’t Be the Adventure Tour Guide—Leadership Takes Tough Calls
“You’re not an adventure tour guide. You’re there to achieve a specific goal, and sometimes that means making tough calls against your team’s individual interests to keep the whole expedition on track.”
Nietzsche, Space Dreams, and Paying the Bills
“Nietzsche teaches us to live life with vitality, to focus on what brings joy in the moment. But, let’s be honest—sometimes that joy includes paying the electricity bill for your sous vide obsession.”
It’s Not All About Musk and Zuckerberg: Real Impact Starts Closer to Home
“The hardest thing isn’t creating global impact like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg—it’s investing in the people around you and making a meaningful difference in their lives.”
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Part One.
A rainy-day idea, a pair of walking shoes, and a determined teenager—what could go wrong? For Chris Schrader, it led to something extraordinary. A simple trek across England turned into a five-figure fundraiser and the start of a global movement. In Part One, the 24 Hour Race founder shares how a tribute to a friend sparked a worldwide fight against human trafficking, raising over $20 million across 25 cities. Turns out, big change starts with small steps.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
How a Teenage Charity Event Turned into a Global Phenomenon Fighting Human Trafficking
“On a typically cold, rainy English day, I suggested to my friends, half-serious, ‘Why don’t we walk across England?’… Sure enough, six months later, we found ourselves walking across England.”
“What started as a one-off 24-hour race in 2010 is now the largest student movement fighting slavery in the world, with events in 25 cities and HK$150 million (US$20 million) raised.”
Why Young People Shouldn’t Just Write Checks: Teaching the Fiduciary Side of Charity
“We want students to view themselves as leaders with the fiduciary responsibility of any charity executive—interviewing project stakeholders to see if the money is really being put to good use.”
Charity Is a Marketplace, Not a Moral Obligation
“Our audience doesn’t need to care about human trafficking to join the event. If they come just for the music festival or because it’s a big sleepover, that’s fine. Our job is to win them over positively.”
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Gary Bremermann’s journey isn’t what you’d call traditional. He didn’t just study, graduate, and land a predictable career—he hitchhiked across North America, dropped out of college (twice!), built a global business, and burned out before finally finding his calling in his mid-30s. Now, as a career coach and recruiter in Japan, he’s helping others navigate their own career paths without the detours and burnout.
In Part 1 of this two-part series, Gary takes us through his unconventional journey—from being an 18-year-old hitchhiker learning life lessons on the road to running a multi-office export business, only to realize financial success wasn’t the key to happiness.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The National Geographic Effect – “I grew up with every issue ever published. That’s how I started dreaming beyond my small town.” How a childhood surrounded by travel magazines planted the seed for a global career.
Dropping Out, Twice – “I quit university, hitchhiked across the U.S. and Canada, and learned more about people than I ever could in a classroom.” Gary’s early lessons on resilience, adaptability, and making unexpected connections.
Building (and Surviving) a Business – “I chased financial success, built an international company, and ended up completely burned out. My business was crushing me.” Why success without purpose isn’t sustainable.
Finding His True Calling – “I hired a coach, and it changed everything. I finally saw a way out.” How coaching saved Gary from burnout—and led him to his real passion: helping others find fulfilling careers.
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Michael Sakraida isn’t here to tell you to cut lattes or max out your 401(k)—he’s here to flip the script on wealth and happiness.
In Money, Balance and Joy, he argues that real financial success isn’t just about money—it’s about balancing cash, time, and social wealth. Along the way, he takes jabs at Wall Street, risk tolerance surveys, and what he calls the “Financial Media Smut Club.” If you’re tired of boring money advice, this episode delivers hard truths with a side of humor. Part Two.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Financial Independence: More Than Just a Paycheck—It’s About Legacy
“True financial independence isn’t about working for money; it’s about working for joy. And when you’re gone, it’s the legacy—both financial and non-financial—that really counts.”
When ‘Aggressive’ Turns ‘Anxious’: The Flawed World of Risk Tolerance Tests
“Advisors tick the ‘aggressive’ box, but when the market drops, those same clients can flip out. The problem? Risk tolerance tests don’t dig into the emotional reality behind investing. They aren’t built to handle the emotional rollercoaster of real-life investing.”
Financial Media Smut Club: Why Most Advice Misses the Mark
“Too many financial articles focus on clickbait rather than offering real, actionable insights. The problem? Writers often don’t understand what they’re talking about.”
The Problem with Financial Influencers: Why They Should Be Regulated or Shut Down
“If financial advisors need compliance approval for every email, why do these so-called financial influencers get a free pass to spread advice with zero oversight?”
Financial Advisors: If You’re Not Asking These Three Questions, You’re Doing It Wrong
“Before any numbers come into play, financial advisors should be addressing the emotions tied to wealth: how you got it, what you want to do with it, and your past experiences with Wall Street.”
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Michael Sakraida believes wealth isn’t just about your bank account—it’s about how you spend your time and who you spend it with.
In Money, Balance and Joy, he exposes why traditional financial wisdom misses the mark and why the real key to happiness lies in balancing money, time, and relationships. He also dishes out some well-aimed criticism at Wall Street, personal finance “experts,” and the media’s obsession with financial doom and gloom. This episode might just change the way you think about money forever. Part One.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Zen and the Art of Smart Change: Why You Shouldn’t Waste Emotional Energy
“Think of change like triage. Some things are worth saving; others, not so much. It’s about focusing your energy on the changes that actually count.”
The Happiness Equation: Why Money Alone Isn’t Enough
"Money buys happiness when it’s part of a three-part ecosystem—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social joy. Balance the three, and you’ve got the real happiness equation."
Feeling Alone in the Crowd: Why Money Isn’t the Only Problem
“Inflation, Wall Street, and the financial media don’t get it—people feel isolated and misunderstood. It’s not just about cash; it’s about finding control and direction when everything feels chaotic.”
Wall Street’s Blind Spot: The Emotional Toll of Inflation
“While Wall Street and politicians stay comfortable, most people struggle, feeling alone and powerless. The key isn’t just money; it’s reclaiming control in a system that’s stacked against you.”
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If negotiating your salary makes you sweat more than a job interview, you’re not alone.
John Gates, author of ACT YOUR WAGE, knows how to turn those anxiety-fueled conversations into strategic wins. Forget the old-school advice about just “asking for more.” John explains why real salary talks aren’t about throwing out a number, but about controlling the conversation, shifting your mindset, and playing the long game.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Coast-to-Coast Hustle: The Ups and Downs of Chasing the Corporate Dream
“During that process of chasing the Fortune 500 career and climbing that ladder, I moved across the country many times. I was laid off several times. I know how terrifying it is to be laid off or separated from a company that once loved you, but now no longer needs you."
From Prosecutor to Defense Attorney: Why Switching Sides Matters
“I do view myself as a former prosecutor who became a defense attorney. I think the best defense attorneys are people who used to be prosecutors because they understand the tactics and strategy and what the other prosecutor is trying to achieve.”
The Silver Bullet Effect: Practical Steps for Negotiation Success
“I start teaching them how to have safe conversations about pay almost immediately. So, very experimentally, I will teach them and drill them and rehearse with them first.”
Salary Negotiation 101: Gladiators Need Not Apply!
“Know your worth and demand your worth. People say, figure out what you’re worth, insist upon that… When I hear that, what I see is high risk. It’s confrontational. It makes it seem like you’re going to be this gladiator… This sort of ultimatum strategy of ‘take it or leave it’ is problematic.”
6 Rules For Successful Salary Negotiation:
1.Do not put “open” or “negotiable” in the salary requirement field — Always put a number.
2.Reframe your salary number into a range during the phone screen — It’s important to shift into a range rather than sticking to a fixed number.
3.Shift the conversation from salary to total compensation — This includes understanding incentives and bonuses beyond the base salary.
4.Use AI tools like ChatGPT to prepare for interviews — This helps generate potential questions and practice responses.
5.Use interview time to sell yourself instead of satisfying curiosity — Focus on addressing their pain points and demonstrating your value.
6.Avoid moving the goalposts during negotiation — Present everything you want in one batch rather than one at a time to prevent putting your offer at risk.
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Some people color inside the lines. Others—like Sara Lobkovich—ditch the coloring book altogether and make their own rules.
A proud introvert, ADHDer, and change-maker, Sara turned years of navigating life’s twists into two books designed to help others do the same. In Part 1, we’ll hear how she went from feeling like an outsider to building a thriving career by embracing what makes her different. And in Part 2, we’ll break down her books—what’s inside, who they’re for, and why they actually work.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
A Love Letter To Square Pegs Who Don't Fit In
"This book is a love letter to me earlier in my career. I know I'm not alone. I know there are so many other people who are having experiences like I did.
If I had written this earlier in my life, if I had somehow had the capacity to write this earlier in my life, I would have written a book to people who are strategically wired and feel like they don't fit in a world that's really focused on tactics to people who feel like square pegs in their careers, like we're always a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and just don't fit in."
Two Books, One Mission: Simplifying Strategy and Goal Setting
“I realized I had two books: one is the No BS OKRs workbook, and the other is about modernized, human-centered strategic planning.”
The Moment ‘You Are a Strategist’ Became the Book Title I Had to Write
“I knew the title had to be ‘You Are a Strategist.’ I rewrote the book to deliver on that title.”
Empowering Your Inner Strategist: No Matter What Job You Do
“You might be a dishwasher, noticing things in the restaurant—there’s strategy in everything we do.”
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Some people color inside the lines. Others—like Sara Lobkovich—ditch the coloring book altogether and make their own rules.
A proud introvert, ADHDer, and change-maker, Sara turned years of navigating life’s twists into two books designed to help others do the same. In Part 1, we’ll hear how she went from feeling like an outsider to building a thriving career by embracing what makes her different. And in Part 2, we’ll break down her books—what’s inside, who they’re for, and why they actually work.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Milk Activist: Chocolate Milk Equality at Age Nine
“I successfully petitioned the cafeteria ladies for milk equality… so that the bag lunch kids could also have chocolate milk on Friday.”
Job Hopping or Scanning? Redefining a Nonlinear Career
“They called it job hopping, but my career coach reframed it as being a ‘scanner’ with lots of interests. Turns out, I wasn’t hopping, I was just too excited to make things better!”
The Burnout Chronicles: From Always-On-the-Go to Needing a Why
“I was that guy on the plane, always on the go. My dog lived with my parents for way too long. That lifestyle led me to burnout, and I realized I needed to do things differently.”
Curiosity as a Cure: How Staying Curious Helped Me Avoid Feeling Stuck
“Curiosity is an antidote to stuckness and anxiety. Later in my career, I developed the ability to always have a playground in my brain—something to learn.”
Turning a Job Disappointment into an MBA in Enterprise Politics
“Instead of feeling frustrated, I reframed my experience as a mini MBA in navigating large political organizations with resistance to change.”
Strategy Isn’t About Being the Smartest in the Room—It’s About Asking the Right Questions
“Being a strategist is not just being the smartest person in the room. It’s having a toolkit of questions that uncover facts, spark insight, and develop ideas.”
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We’re closing out Love and Logic with a powerhouse—Waverly Deutsch, the theater-loving, PhD-earning, startup-coaching dynamo.
A fierce advocate for LGBTQ and women entrepreneurs, Waverly doesn’t just give advice; she gives strategies that work. At WyseHeart Advisory, she’s proving that retirement isn’t about slowing down—it’s about lifting up the next generation with tough love and a little bit of stage presence.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:A Coach’s Secret Weapon
“The key to trust and transformation in coaching lies in active listening. People often speak in long, winding narratives. The magic is in boiling it down to the core message—a few sentences that make them feel truly understood and heard. By distilling and refining, you don’t just hear—they feel heard, understood, and empowered to act.”
AI Can Polish, But Can’t Replace the Human Spark
“AI can help craft a polished pitch or refine a resume, but it can’t simulate the deep understanding and personal experience that resonate in real-life interactions. The investor meeting? That’s where your own knowledge and authenticity come into play.”
The Dating Analogy for Entrepreneurs
“Pitching to investors is like dating. The 10-minute pitch? That’s the coffee date. The in-depth meeting? That’s the dinner date. The term sheet? That’s the engagement ring. True commitment comes when the contracts are signed and the check is in the bank.”
The Age and Cost Equation
“Older professionals face a harsh reality: companies often trade senior salaries for multiple junior hires. This economic shift means adapting, whether through freelancing, consulting, or pursuing entirely new avenues of work.”
Consulting as the Bridge
“Many transitioning entrepreneurs find opportunities as consultants. Whether it’s an interim CFO role or building sales strategies, the key is to be willing to revisit foundational work while leveraging years of expertise to establish credibility in new ventures.”
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If there’s one thing Waverly Deutsch doesn’t do, it’s fluff.
In Part 2 of Love and Logic series, she shares her bold journey from STEM to stage, academia to entrepreneurship, and why she built WyseHeart Advisory to help founders thrive. A champion for LGBTQ and women entrepreneurs, Waverly proves that real mentorship isn’t about hand-holding—it’s about giving the kind of feedback that sticks.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Blending Heart and Head
“Whether it’s calming executives’ cautious approaches or reining in overly ambitious young entrepreneurs, success lies in balancing heart (vision) with head (practicality). It’s about building a compelling story that resonates with both emotions and logic.”
Executives: Breaking the Incremental Mold
“Executives often pitch ideas that feel safe but lack innovation. They’re so aware of corporate barriers that their creativity gets stifled. My role? Push them to think beyond incremental improvements and aim for groundbreaking changes that truly stand out.”
“Executives often present highly calculated plans—‘$5 million investment for $7 million returns.’ While safe, it doesn’t excite investors. Encouraging them to aim higher, to envision $50 million, injects the passion and ambition their pitches often lack.”
Unleashing Undergraduate Imagination
“Undergraduates are brimming with ideas because they haven’t yet encountered the roadblocks of the corporate world. The challenge is teaching them the process—how to take their boundless creativity and add logic, research, and structure to turn dreams into sustainable ventures.”
Overzealous Optimism Meets Reality
“On the flip side, young entrepreneurs brim with optimism, promising billion-dollar outcomes for modest investments. The challenge? Bringing logic into their bold dreams—helping them see the steps, resources, and realistic pathways to scale.”
The Power of Experimentation
“Sometimes, all it takes is encouraging an entrepreneur to think bigger—just as an exercise. That simple shift in perspective can unlock enormous potential, as it did with Simple Mills, now a model for blending passion and pragmatism to scale innovation.”
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Welcome to Part 1 of “Love and Logic,” where Waverly Deutsch shows us how balancing passion and reason leads to real impact. Today, we explore her journey—how she carved her path and why she’s committed to helping others find theirs. In later episodes, we’ll cover her work at Chicago Booth and WyseHeart Advisory, where she dishes out “tough love for entrepreneurs.”
Waverly is famous for her blunt yet brilliant coaching style—think “Simon Cowell of Chicago Booth,” but with actual solutions. She’ll tell you your business pitch makes no sense, then hand you a roadmap to make it airtight. If you’re looking for sugarcoating, look elsewhere. If you want to grow, listen in.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
A Love for Theater and Logic
“I fell in love with theater and acting as a child. My mother and I would go to the theater together—it was a special time for us. At the same time, I was good at math and logic puzzles. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science. They were separate disciplines, but in my mind, I was always bringing them together.”
The Gut-Driven Leap
“At 29, with a fresh PhD, analysis didn’t guide my career move. Joining Forrester was pure gut instinct. I saw it as a chance to dive back into technology, learn from brilliant people, and expand my horizons—no spreadsheets, no market evaluations, just a leap of faith.”
Academia or Impact? The Career Crossroads
“Graduating with a PhD in theater history during a recession, teaching jobs were scarce. Colleges were cutting back on theater programs, and the research focus in humanities felt too esoteric. I wanted to do something more contemporary, more impactful.”
Burnout and Breakthroughs
“After nearly eight years at Forrester, experiencing explosive growth, an IPO, and 60-hour weeks, I needed a reset. By 1999, I was ready for a new direction and decided to approach my next move more strategically.”
Empathy for Everyone
“Emotions aren’t just a ‘women’s thing.’ I’ve sat with many men who’ve cried during challenging discussions. The key is understanding that emotions are human, not a weakness, and they have a place in even the most logic-driven conversations.”
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Christopher Quek wasn’t built to follow the family script. In this two-part series, we explore how he walked away from the comforts of a well-established family business in Singapore to chase entrepreneurship in Malaysia—much to his father’s dismay. After returning home, he doubled down on his independence by selling his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm built on his own vision.
Last episode looked into his quest for self-identity—the reasons behind his bold moves and how he made them a reality. This time, we’ll discuss his current work as a VC investor, his ambitions for the entrepreneurial landscape in Southeast Asia, and his thoughts on legacy and family at this stage in his life.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Kicking off with a big question: Is Singapore still relevant after 50 years? Here's an entrepreneurial view
"In 2015, when Singapore celebrated its 50th birthday as a nation. Singapore evolved itself out of necessity where it built a whole nation, a workforce of engineers, scientists, bankers, lawyers, doctors, specialists. We started losing a whole generation of entrepreneurs."
Bridging the Generation Gap: How to Turn ‘Parents’ Old Ways’ into a Future-Proof Family Business
"I actually have a network of over 300 family business owners across Southeast Asia. And there's always this common themes that starts first. Number one, how do I talk to my parents? How do I have a good working relationship with my parents and a family relationship back at home? Number two, I don't like the way that my parents are doing things and I need to transform this business. How do I convince my parents that I can transform this business as well?"
Turning Spare Millions into Family Business Magic: The Synergy Cycle of Tech, Money and Southeast Asian Economy
"Everyone gets to have food on the table. What we didn't realize that what this family business did was that it took that technology, have more food, more quantity, and decided to sell it cheaper to a poorer province, where those villagers were now able to obtain more quantity of food for their families."
Breaking the Patriarchal Mold: How Self-Development Earned Me My Father’s Respect
"My father has been an Asian patriarch with an iron fist. He now talks to me about the side businesses that he's doing. He asks me as his advisor and no longer sees the son on whom he used to look down."
Still Figuring It Out: The Never-Ending Saga of Self-Discovery
"I still believe that I'm evolving. I'm still learning more in terms of understanding my identity."
Fatherhood and Fortune: What’s the Game Plan for Your Next Generation, Chris?
"Anybody who wants to help the next generation is to be a mentor of values rather than a mentor of processes."
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Christopher Quek wasn’t built to follow the family script. In this two-part series, we explore how he walked away from the comforts of a well-established family business in Singapore to chase entrepreneurship in Malaysia—much to his father’s dismay. After returning home, he doubled down on his independence by selling his inheritance to launch TRIVE, a venture capital firm built on his own vision. In this episode, we dive into his boldest moves, his pursuit of self-identity, and what it really takes to break free from expectations.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Father’s Furious Expectations: When a Third-Gen Heir Sneaks Out of the Family Business
"I couldn't stand all the pollution that the manufacturing plant was producing. And finally, after three days, I sneaked back to Singapore and my father saw me. He got angry. He shouted at me."
Family Education 101: Learning P&L Over Dinner with Dad, Where Burgers Come with a Side of Calculating Profits
"He would take me out to restaurants. And he forced me to start calculating out the revenues. He will start telling me like, what do you think is the expenses behind this? And I had to start learning a profit and loss statement just by that very visible conversation itself."
Beyond the Textbook: How Mentorship Shaped Chris' Evolution
"I'm a product of my mentors in my life. So I'm the number two and number three mentors were also very successful businessmen."
Owning My Identity: Mr. Quek or Just Mr. Quek’s Son?
"There was already a trigger point in my value system that was I going to continue as a the next generation of business owners to continue polluting, just to make money for the sake of money."
Finding My Way: From Circumstances to Self-Fulfilment
"It was more of circumstances and situations and opportunities that just appeared. If you ask me like some certain crossroads in my life, for example, heading off to Malaysia instead of China I felt that was the right thing to do."
The Adventure of Self-Discovery: Uncovering Hidden Layers of Yourself at Every Stage
"Give you a little bit of the element of what at every stage is about really discovering yourself, which is really an exciting journey. You don't realize that you have actually a lot of things about yourself that you haven't discovered. "
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Part Two.
From politics to entrepreneurship, Sihame El Kaouakibi has faced—and conquered—some serious challenges. Burnout? Check. Bankruptcy? Been there. A political storm? Handled. But instead of breaking under pressure, she calls herself “anti-fragile,” using adversity as fuel for reinvention. In Part One, we explore how she built herself back up as a leadership coach, diversity advocate, and creator of Women Leaders OS. And this is just the beginning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business
“I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life—physically, mentally, and professionally.”
Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval
“Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.”
Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality
“I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything—like potential and talents to drive change.”
“I wasn’t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.”
Thriving vs. Surviving: Why “You’re Not Stuck, You’re Just in the Wrong Pot” Applies to Your Career
“The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.”
“Sometimes it’s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it’s sometimes better to just leave.”
Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life’s Curveballs Without Crashing
“My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.”
“Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.”
Success Isn’t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle
“There’s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.”
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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.
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From politics to entrepreneurship, Sihame El Kaouakibi has faced—and conquered—some serious challenges. Burnout? Check. Bankruptcy? Been there. A political storm? Handled. But instead of breaking under pressure, she calls herself “anti-fragile,” using adversity as fuel for reinvention. In Part One, we explore how she built herself back up as a leadership coach, diversity advocate, and creator of Women Leaders OS. And this is just the beginning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business
“I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life—physically, mentally, and professionally.”
Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval
“Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.”
Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality
“I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything—like potential and talents to drive change.”
“I wasn’t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.”
Thriving vs. Surviving: Why “You’re Not Stuck, You’re Just in the Wrong Pot” Applies to Your Career
“The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.”
“Sometimes it’s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it’s sometimes better to just leave.”
Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life’s Curveballs Without Crashing
“My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.”
“Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.”
Success Isn’t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle
“There’s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sihame El Kaouakibi______________________
--**Chief Change Officer**--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.
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Higher education often feels like a reality TV show—full of rivalries, dramatic eliminations, and schools fighting for the top spot. But what if universities actually worked together?
Enter Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and host of The Innovating Together Podcast. From her small-town roots to becoming a driving force in educational reform, Bridget is on a mission to replace academic competition with collaboration. She’s tackling the “Higher Ed Hunger Games” head-on, working to boost graduation rates and open doors for low-income students—no cutthroat eliminations required.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One
“Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.”
30:07—Mending Hearts in the Office: When Leaders Turn into Heartbreakers
"There are a lot of people walking around with broken hearts because they’ve had a leader who’s betrayed them."
33:39—The AI Rat Race: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?
"This natural tendency to compete with each other. There’s like an arms race and that’s what’s happening with AI.”
38:41—From Cap and Gown to Capable and Grown: Reinventing the Grad-to-Gig Highway
"There should be coaches for faculty to embed career readiness into every single classroom, starting from the first class a student takes."
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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.
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Higher education often feels like a reality TV show—full of rivalries, dramatic eliminations, and schools fighting for the top spot. But what if universities actually worked together?
Enter Dr. Bridget Burns, CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and host of The Innovating Together Podcast. From her small-town roots to becoming a driving force in educational reform, Bridget is on a mission to replace academic competition with collaboration. She’s tackling the “Higher Ed Hunger Games” head-on, working to boost graduation rates and open doors for low-income students—no cutthroat eliminations required.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Overcoming Adversity: Bridget's Journey from Isolation to Empowerment
“I grew up in a cul de sac of racism, homophobia, misogyny—very rural America—and getting out was super important.”
Problem in Universities: Unveiling the Diffusion of Innovation Problem
“We don’t know if what we’re doing is any good, or how to scale it.”
Higher Ed Hunger Games: Tackling the Cutthroat Competition
"Higher education is highly competitive, hierarchical, set up to pit you against others, which leaves very little space to share about shared problems."
Real Change or Just for Show? Scouting for True Innovators in Academia
"We need to figure out who else is a worker bee, who's interested in doing the really hard stuff and not just drawn to the image."
Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One
“Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Bridget Burns______________________
--**Chief Change Officer**--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.
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