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  • We had the chance to speak to Grant Petty of Blackmagic Design at this year’s NAB conference. It was as much of a conversation about technology and innovation as it was a conversation about human nature. 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Jourdan Aldredge speaks with Blackmagic CEO Grant Petty to discuss: 

    Developing the URSA Cine with a post-production mindset

    Zero-cost options from Blackmagic for beginners

    Why Grant doesn’t like to compete with others

    PYXIS camera and its features

    Creating products that lend to an efficient post-production workflow

    Exciting new changes and updates to DaVinci Resolve 19

    Grant’s opinion on AI and the future of editing 

    The moment he fell in love with color correction

    Feeling lonely and misunderstood

    Why you have to be a ruthless, yet empathetic product engineer



    Memorable Quotes

    “Business people are some of the stupidest people in the world.” [22:25]

    “A lot of this technology is just shit. It’s not very reliable.” [29:11]

    “If it gets too smart, it’s just another species to kill. Humans are fantastic at killing everything. We just gotta go hunting computers.” [30:45]

    “With creativity comes great loneliness.” [47:58]

    “You got to be simultaneously ruthless and simultaneously full of empathy.” [50:00]


    Mentioned:
    A First-Hand Look at the New Blackmagic URSA Cine 12K at NAB 2024 

    Check out Jourdan's article 

    Blackmagic URSA Cine

    Blackmagic PYXIS

    DaVinci Resolve 19   




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  • Erick Sasso is a multi-hyphenate creative and the editor of the film, Maxine's Baby: The Tyler Perry Story, which documents the life of Tyler Perry. Erick compares the making of documentaries to the making of a meal. You need to use the right ingredients…not too much, not too little. And everyone at the table has to enjoy it.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with filmmaker Erick Sasso to discuss: 

    Making music videos with his friends in high school

    Realizing you can reverse engineer in the edit

    The importance of charging adequately for your services

    How he landed the editing job on Maxine’s Baby


    What it looks like to fall in love with the subject

    Navigating topics such as abuse and childhood trauma 

    What it was like seeing emotional reactions from the audience

    Important lessons he has learned about being a filmmaker

    Setting up projects in Adobe Premiere

    Overcoming tech fears and looking forward to new updates

    Why editors make the best directors

    Focusing on development and learning from others


    Memorable Quotes

    “Usually you are not charging enough. Usually, you are charging way less than industry standard.” [12:38]

    “When you edit a lot, it’s really creepy when you meet people.” [32:59]

    “You may think you are a hard worker until you meet someone who is doing 10x your output.” [35:09]

    “You need to become a pro at uncertainty.” [60:24]



    Mentioned:
    Maxine’s Baby: The Tyler Perry Story

    Erick's website

    Connect with Erick on IG


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  • Rod Blackhurst and Noah Lang are the dynamic duo behind the film Blood for Dust, starring Kit Harington, Scooty McNairy, and Josh Lucas. These filmmakers share why leading with honesty, openness, and enthusiasm is the key to building strong relationships and creating successful films. You don’t have to be cutthroat in this industry in order to achieve your filmmaking dreams.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with director Rod Blackhurst and producer Noah Lang to discuss: 

    How Rod and Noah began working together

    Why you should lead with honesty and enthusiasm

    Making movies with the same people over and over again

    Understanding what you have agency over in your career

    How Scoot McNairy and Kit Harington came onto the project

    How meeting David Gordon Green in 2012 eventually led to the making of Blood for Dust


    The power of self-awareness and being a kind filmmaker

    The vibe on set - having fun amid stress

    What it looks like to make an honest living in filmmaking 



    Memorable Quotes

    “You can meet someone on the internet and become homies.” [3:27]

    “You don’t need everyone to want to be on your team. You just need some of the right people.” [38:55]

    “Being a good person and doing good work matters. It does result in good things happening.” [43:02]

    “We’re rowing upstream, going against the grain. We’re out there believing in what we have. Wrestling with our choices, behaviors, actions, our own struggles, and darkness.” [50:44]



    Mentioned:
    Blood for Dust 

    Here Alone

    Connect with Rod on IG

    Connect with Noah on IG

    Witchcraft (Rod & Noah’s production company)


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  • Nina Ognjanovic is the director of the film, Where the Road Leads, which won Best Narrative Feature at Slamdance 2023. Nina and her passionate team prove you can successfully market a foreign, indie film on a limited budget and still win at major festivals in the US and worldwide.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Nina Ognjanovic, David Jovanovic, and Jana Bjelica to discuss: 

    Their experience traveling from Serbia to the United States for Slamdance

    Marketing the film using scrappy, creative methods

    Their approach to casting and shooting

    What it was like to act on multiple projects at the same time

    How they handled shooting in an isolated location without cell service

    Building trust with the cast, crew, and locals

    The Slamdance experience and the reaction of the audience

    The first shot of the film - finding a unique solution to a challenge

    Setting the production schedule based on the weather conditions 

    The magic they experienced during production

    Why you need to fail and experiment before doing a feature 



    Memorable Quotes

    “It’s hard, but when you love your job, everything is possible” [9:23]

    “I was freaking out day after day…my hair started falling off.” [21:35]

    “Manage your expectations. Don’t write something you know you can’t deliver.” [30:58]



    Mentioned:
    Where the Road Leads on TikTok 

    Where the Road Leads on Instagram 

    Pointless Films Production House


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  • Were you hoping work would pick back up after last year’s strikes? Unfortunately, work is epically slow, and 2024 is a rough year for the film industry. But just because Hollywood is slowing down, doesn’t mean you have to.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    The industry post-strike

    How higher interest rates are affecting streamers

    The unpredictability of a career in film

    Accepting the things out of your control

    Living with family or friends to lower expenses

    The unattainable “American Dream” 

    Staying creative during this slow year

    How famine years can have their benefits

    An example of finding career success outside of Hollywood



    Memorable Quotes

    “Work is epically slow and it’s terrifying.” [3:44]

    “If you don’t have three months of cash cushion in your bank account, do not feel bad.” [19:40]

    “I don’t think we need to build our identity on outside markers of financial success.” [28:21]

    “If you can’t be investing money, you can be investing your energy and creativity into your future career.” [32:52]



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  • Sam Hargrave is an award winning stuntman and stunt coordinator, second unit director for films like Suicide Squad and Avengers:Endgame, and director of the film Extraction. His second feature film, Extraction 2, is available on Netflix, June 16. 

    In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and director Sam Hargrave discuss:

    The transition from stunt performing to directing

    What a “stunt vis” is and why it's important for efficiency and safety on set

    How directing a film is like being a switchboard operator

    Why filming Extraction 2 was more challenging than the first film

    Wanting to give the audience more the second time around

    The specifics to the casting process

    Operating the camera on the more dangerous scenes 

    Landing a helicopter onto a moving train

    Making others feel invested in your project

    Sam’s approach to emailing those he works with



    Memorable Quotes

    “I was young and flexible and really wanted to be Jackie Chan.” [4:06]

    “There’s so many questions that come the way of the director. It feels like you are a switchboard operator on methamphetamines.” [10:07]

    “Communication with other departments is one of the most important things in filmmaking.” [11:50]

    “Each movie…is its own unique puzzle. It’s a labyrinth that you and the crew have to work your way through.” [14:34]

    “When you can do something practically, always do it.” [23:12]


    Resources:
    Extraction 2 trailer


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  • Heat is important to your film career. It means that you and your work are gaining attention and recognition, which can lead to more opportunities in the future. So how can you generate and navigate heat at an industry level? What contributes to “positive heat” or “negative heat?” 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman speak with Chris Moore, Katie Marpe, and Dennis De Nobile to discuss: 

    How Chris, Katie, and Dennis entered the industry and how they met

    Why you need to promote yourself and your work

    The One Moore Hollywood Podcast and the topics they discuss

    The difference between “in the business heat” and “out of the business heat”

    Seeing big corporations gravitating toward original ideas

    How audiences decide whether they will watch a movie or not

    Getting feedback on your ideas

    Why your idea may be better suited for a different medium


    Good Will Hunting - Generating authentic heat with the script

    When you realize a script isn’t working 

    How your attitude and behavior affect the type of heat you generate

    Sensing tension of the cast and crew while watching a movie


    Memorable Quotes

    “It’s like surfing. The best thing to do in your career is to read what’s happening around you and take the wave where it’s taking you.” [4:22]

    “You have to be able to sell yourself and your ideas. You can’t just operate in a vacuum and expect somebody to discover you.” [16:12 ]

    “Go out and make something you think you would pay for.” [52:12]

    “What’s the commercial version of your weirdness?” [1:01:28]

    “Heat will come back to you. It will tell you if your shit is good. If you can’t generate any heat, that means your shit is not good.” [1:07:17]


    Mentioned:
    Follow Chris on IG

    Follow Dennis on IG 

    Follow Katie on IG 

    One Moore Hollywood Podcast on IG


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  • How do you build a career as a cinematographer when the odds are against you? How do you create opportunities for yourself, when dealing with rejection, financial barriers, and prejudice? Is it possible to pursue your dream without conforming and becoming someone you are not? 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with cinematographers Bruce Cole and Alejandro Mejía to discuss: 

    Being drawn to visual art from a young age

    The people who encouraged and inspired their creative dreams

    Feeling motivated by rejection 

    Why New York is a great place to start a film career

    The importance of having mentors in your career journey

    Stigmas they experience in the industry as minorities

    Why we need to stop glamorizing film careers

    How to maintain balance during long, tedious projects

    Cultivating yourself and embracing who you are

    Having another creative form of expression outside of film



    Memorable Quotes

    “I want to do this. I want to travel the world and know the world with a camera.” [14:25]

    “New York is probably the best starter city for young filmmakers from all walks of life.” [40:09]

    “This is not a speed race. This is a marathon. We are long-distance runners.” [71:28]

    “We’re losing that artistry because we are so focused on being someone else.” [79:10]



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    From Landing the Job to Boosting Morale: Sundance DP Roundtable Dives into Filters & More
    More about Bruce

    More about Alejandro


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  • The small decisions that you make at the beginning of your project, can cause headaches later on. If you want to avoid tech issues in post, then you need to set up your project correctly from the start. Speaking of doing things right from the start, there is a right way and a wrong way to approach your interviews. How should you prepare for your next interview to make sure it doesn’t bomb?

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    Bombing interviews in Hollywood

    What not to do during an interview

    Going to interviews as a slightly fancier version of yourself 

    How to respond when someone doesn’t read your script

    Feeling guilty for not reading other people’s scripts

    Career errors we have learned from

    The helpless feeling you get when troubleshooting tech problems 

    Media management issues in post-production

    Sorting through the timeline and looking for weird shots

    Why it’s worth bringing on subject matter experts early


    Memorable Quotes

    “Over-researching is never a mistake when you are given an opportunity.” [2:09]

    “Everyone I know has made huge, catastrophic career mistakes and we’ve all kept going.” [9:00]

    “Setting up things right from the start makes your life so much easier.” [30:29]

    “God bless people in post-production. The most patient humans in the world.” [35:48]



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  • Should you hire an intimacy coordinator for your next project? What exactly does an intimacy coordinator do? Does having this person on set ruin spontaneity? How can having more structure around intimate scenes, actually encourage freedom and creativity during the storytelling process? 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Lisa Jacqueline Starrett, Jamie Monahan, and Renata Soares to discuss:

    The role of an intimacy coordinator

    What led Lisa, Jamie, and Renata to become intimacy coordinators

    Wanting to advocate for actors and their boundaries

    How detailed screenwriters should be when writing intimate scenes

    Knowing the intention behind sex scenes

    How to choreograph and rehearse intimate scenes

    Being hired as an “insurance policy” to protect production

    What it looks like to be actively pursuing a safe space

    Having a consent - forward mentality on set

    The types of conversations an intimacy coordinator should have with cast and crew

    How to redirect a situation that is not working

    Why art doesn’t require graphic nudity to be amazing

    How to become an intimacy coordinator


    Memorable Quotes

    “If you’re thinking of safety protocols for staged violence, why are we not doing the same for intimacy scenes?” [13:21]

    “I love thinking about art and intimacy in a way that can move storytelling forward.” [19:10]

    “The creative vision of the scene doesn’t come from the intimacy coordinator…we are there to facilitate the vision to become reality.” [30:04]

    “We are there to make everyone more comfortable in telling that story.” [56:26]



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  • You are still a legitimate filmmaker even if you don’t own any gear. Most filmmakers actually don’t own the gear they use and for good reason. And speaking of gear, what movies geared you toward the path of filmmaking? 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    Buying gear or renting gear - which is better?

    When you should justify buying gear

    Realizing how much work it takes to create a movie

    The things that made us want to work in movies

    Having fun with genre

    Looking for books about the making of movies 

    The idea of being inserted into the story

    How to influence others who don’t enjoy movies

    Unpredictable twists that bail out the “bad guy”

    The balance between fantasy and reality in a film



    Memorable Quotes

    “Most professionals rent because gear has wear and tear and you outgrow it.” [5:10]

    “In the digital era, shit ages fast!” [11:13]

    “I cannot imagine a human with two lungs, two ears, two eyes, and a heart not loving Tokyo Drift.” [27:01]

    “I already knew I wanted to be a filmmaker before I read my first IMDb trivia page.” [18:32]



    Mentioned:
    Share Grid rental platform 

    Waking Ned Devine

    Clue

    Shirley Temple

    The Little Rascals 

    The Secret Garden

    The Royal Tenenbaums

    Being John Malkovich

    The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 

    Problemista




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  • Who says making a movie requires expensive equipment, a large crew, and a script? Maybe creating a film can be a creative experiment between a couple of friends who are excited about the uncertainty of the journey that awaits. This was the realization Pete Ohs had when he recognized that the typical approach to filmmaking was not for him.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Pete Ohs, Will Madden, Frank Mosley, and Charles Watson to discuss:

    Finding a location that is narratively inspiring and accessible

    Thinking about the edit while directing

    An extremely unique and collaborative way to develop characters

    Creating a score that is not traditional to other films

    Pete’s unique approach to creating movies

    How Pete keeps the budget so low and why it’s important

    Feeling excited by the challenge of the limited resources you have

    Why the uncertainty of this style of filmmaking is exciting and magical

    Their Slamdance Film Festival experience

    Other festivals and what they love about them

    Starting with what you have available 


    Memorable Quotes

    “Can I make a movie the way I did when I was fifteen?” [14:27]

    “It doesn’t have to cost so much money. Filmmaking can just be an activity. It can be just a hobby.” [16:19]

    “Every camera that’s new is good enough. You don’t need the newest camera.” [18:09]

    “There’s no reason you shouldn’t be making a movie. You can do it if you want to.” [22:26]

    “The things you think you need, you probably don’t.” [40:20]


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    LOVE AND WORK teaser 
    Follow Pete on Instagram
    Follow Love and Work on Instagram
    Follow Frank on Instagram
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    Slamdance Film Festival 
    Film Fort in Idaho 
    Side Walk Film Festival in Alabama
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  • Getting your script into the hands of the right people is extremely difficult. What is a desperate screenwriter to do if they seek feedback on their screenplay? Are script coverage services helpful or just another cog profiting from an emerging filmmaker’s hope? 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    Recalling memories from March 2020 when the world “shut down”

    Why we are surprised that Nikon bought RED

    The acquisition of BorrowLenses 

    The importance of the first 10 pages of your script 

    Why the opening scene of The Godfather is so powerful 

    The Gauntlet - a controversial script coverage service 

    What infuriates us about AI script coverage

    Why AI cannot evaluate creative screenwriting

    Hollywood, the hope machine




    Memorable Quotes

    “In those first ten pages you know, what is this movie and who is it for.” [14:55]

    “The idea of AI evaluating your script is fucking horseshit.” [26:08]

    “We keep engaging in this fantasy that AI can think. AI cannot fucking think.” [30:52]

    “That’s what Hollywood is. It’s a hope machine. You always have perpetual hope that tomorrow you can become famous.” [40:46]



    Mentioned:
    Lensrentals To Acquire BorrowLenses

    Heard of The New, Controversial Script Coverage Service The Gauntlet?

    Why All AI Script Coverage is a Scam 


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  • If you want to succeed with fantasy and make it a transformative experience, you have to create real characters. To convey realness, you have to go beyond the “good versus evil” narrative of traditional fantasy movies. You have to create duality.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with Director Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, to discuss:

    Why Juan Carlos became a filmmaker

    The complicated family dynamics in his film, Damsel


    Why he loves portraying duality in the characters

    Why you always have to have a plan, even if you don’t stick to it 

    How he prepares for production

    A happy accident that became one of his favorite shots

    The inspiration behind the violent fire in the movie

    Creating a proper fire simulation

    Why you have to chase your own voice



    Memorable Quotes

    “I thought ‘oh my god I have to make movies like this.’ ” [5:46]

    “I’m much more willing to show the grey zone, because I think that takes you into the reality.” [11:35]

    “You have to give space to happy accidents.” [16:26]



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    Damsel 


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  • Regardless if you are new to filmmaking or you have years of experience, you must be strategic about managing your career in film. This includes setting goals, constantly building your portfolio, and knowing how to financially support yourself between paid projects.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    At what point you should show your film to the cast

    Feeling connected to actors you have never met in real life

    The importance of writing down specific goals each year

    Making money in the short term while working on big projects 

    The power of sharing your goals with others

    How many scripts do successful screenwriters produce each year

    What your objective should be when taking general meetings

    How to ask if there is a development fund

    Narrative lessons from the show Survivor (season 46, episode 1)



    Memorable Quotes

    “The weirdest thing about post is you feel like you are spending time with these people.” [3:30]

    “You don’t have to be squeaky to be advocating for yourself.” [13:20]

    “Productions that handled chaos better were the ones with a more thorough plan.” [21:58]

    “It’s a conversation. It’s not a dance.” [42:39]



    Mentioned:
    Editors and Post-Sound Have a Crush on Each Other('s Work)


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  • What does it look like to advocate for yourself as a creator? Well, it starts with understanding your value and knowing where you can serve. Then, you have to develop the courage to articulate and offer your expertise. This is exactly what Shakina did to land the role of executive story editor on the NBC series, Quantum Leap.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with multihyphenate creator, Shakina, to discuss:

    How she got her start as a storyteller

    Why framing is just as important in theater as it is on TV

    How her experience as a trans person helps her write for Quantum Leap


    What it’s like to work with new cast members every week

    Why the coming out scene in “The Family Treasure” episode was so powerful

    Telling ground-breaking nuanced stories that are unprecedented 

    Making queer stories more comfortable and less “threatening” for audiences

    The fast-paced yet collaborative nature of writers' rooms

    Advocating for herself in various roles on set 

    Creating space for characters we don’t normally see on television



    Memorable Quotes

    “Just write something that will never get made.” [8:52]

    “You have to be in charge of how you see yourself and lean into the skills that bring you the most joy.” [35:47]

    “Space without resources and support is a trap.” [40:00]

    “Do something every day that pushes you toward your dream.” [41:02]



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  • With the rise of AI, will Hollywood begin to neuter your voice? While AI isn’t creating anything original, the immediate convenience of this tool is already impacting our industry. Artificial intelligence is being applied to creative arts, so filmmakers need to understand how it can affect their careers. 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Jason Hellerman speaks with acquisition executive and script consultant, Evan Littman, to discuss:

    Why we should be concerned about text-to-video AI tools like Sora

    Why large studios have a better chance of going against generative AI models

    AI-generated screenplays and copyright laws

    Using AI to read and give feedback on scripts

    Examples of how unreliable AI can be

    Developing your voice as a screenwriter

    What newer writers need to understand about breaking into the industry

    Why 8/10 on a script isn’t good enough 


    Memorable Quotes

    “This is something a lot of people thought was coming, but it arrived faster than we anticipated.” [2:49]

    “A.I. is not making anything. It’s just recombining and generating an output based on what it already has.” [7:38]

    “A.I. at this point in time, can’t really generate anything good. What it makes is regurgitated slop.” [11:11]

    “You just really need one ‘yes’ to get a movie made. It doesn’t matter if you have a hundred ‘I like its.’ You really need one ‘I love it.’” [42:41]



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    Get Made Consulting

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  • If you are at square one in your filmmaking journey, you are probably confused about where to start. You’re not sure how you are going to pay the bills, let alone finance your projects. You’re also worried about the state of the industry and wondering if you have a shot at success. Our guest, Ana Liza Muravina, believes that if you’re serious about filmmaking, “it’s your responsibility to understand what kind of business you’re getting into.”

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins speaks with filmmaker Ana Liza Muravina to discuss:

    How the industry has transformed

    The decline of tv and film consumption

    What a period of consolidation means for filmmakers

    The power of attaching certain elements to your project

    Ensuring the project you are pitching is financially viable 

    Foreign Sales - what are they and how are they impacted by streaming services

    Becoming clear on the project you are making

    Finding patrons and supporters in your local area

    The importance of casting valuable actors

    Figuring out what you want out of your career

    Having a collaboration agreement and what it should look like


    Memorable Quotes

    “Streaming tv is going to look a lot like how cable used to look. It’s going to be expensive.” [9:24]

    “In our industry and in our society, success is tied to money.” [11:41]

    Money is not all concentrated in Los Angeles and New York. Money is wherever there are people who have made money.” [26:45]

    “Please make the thing that’s most interesting to you otherwise it’s not going to be interesting and it’s not going to sell.” [28:35]


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  • There’s a very important lesson can we learn from films like 28 Days Later, which is not available in physical format or on streamer. It’s hard to believe a film starring award-winning talent like Cillian Murphy, who is nominated for an Oscar this year, is not commercially available to audiences. Let’s find out how you can make sure your movie doesn’t succumb to the same fate. 

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:

    Staying conscious about the ways our contracts are written

    Thinking about where projects will be in 100 years

    Automating residual systems - is it a good idea?

    Feeling disturbed and disappointed by the lack of physical media available

    Pros and cons of text-to-video tools like Sora AI

    How AI can be a useful tool if it is subordinate to creatives

    Jaywalking in front of self-driving vehicles 

    What is causing the current short story phenomenon

    Why you should be reading screenplays every week



    Memorable Quotes

    Thinking about your digital legacy is a really interesting thing to try to negotiate and navigate.” [9:15]

    “Don’t get too attached to the movie you made because it might just completely go away.” [12:30]

    “Your scripts should be entertaining. Your goal is to create a great read.” [43:48]

    “I’m against building statues of anybody that’s alive. It’s expensive to take down a statue.” [48:24]



    Mentioned:
    OpenAI’s Insanely Powerful Text-to-Video Model ‘Sora’ is Here 

    What are the Ramifications of the New 'Sora' OpenAI App on Hollywood?

    Here’s How Sora’s AI Video Could Actually be Good for Filmmakers

    Why Are Short Stories Hot In Hollywood Right Now? 

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  • Weak Layers is Katie Burrell’s feature film, which she not only directed but co-wrote and acted in. The film invites us to truly understand ski culture, unlike many unrealistic ski movies of the past. With this film, Katie proves that a novice director can stay true to their vision while also leading with transparency, humility, and positivity along the way.

    In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, speaks with Katie Burrell to discuss:

    Feeling excited about theatrical releases in ski towns

    Creating such a niche film

    What Katie can’t stand about other ski movies

    The unique, diverse cast and what they brought to the film

    Directing in extreme climates

    Being honest about her lack of experience

    How she kept up morale on set

    Why they didn’t do any playback

    How they created an organic party vibe on set



    Memorable Quotes

    “I was militant about making sure that it felt like it was a Hollywood movie, something that could reach into the mainstream.” [6:34]

    “No pro skier would ever put their goggles on top of the helmet.” [10:49]

    “In all the auditions of the core cast, there was a uniqueness that came through in each of them.” [14:03]

    “I was having the best time, all of the time.” [31:26]

    “To be somebody’s scene partner and also their director, is a really tricky relationship dynamic.” [37:09]

    “Don’t be afraid to admit that you have no idea what you’re doing, because people will rally around you and want to support that kind of attitude.” [43:46]




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