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  • We're back one last time with a bittersweet symphony to close out season 3 of the B-Sides.

    In this mailbag episode, we're answering a flurry of questions, reading listeners' (almost exclusively Taylor Swift-related) comments, and ending with a favorite quote about how music sneaks up on us — and changes us.

    Doing this podcast for the past four years in community with you all has changed us for the better. We love you and we thank you. <3

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  • On today's episode we talk about nepo-siblings. Who are they? And what creates a power imbalance?

    Nepo-siblings are a rare breed. Being a nepo-sibling pair relies on talent from both siblings – what level of talent separates each sibling we’ll get into in today's ep. It also relies on a hustle from the “lesser” famous sibling – putting themselves on reality shows, trapping themselves in an elevator, and lip syncing on SNL. Join us for a discussion on three sets of siblings (Ariana/Frankie, Beyonce/Solange, & Jessica/Ashlee).

    Links mentioned:

    Frankie and Ariana Grande's "Seasons of Love" ⁠Interview between Beyoncé and Solange⁠ ⁠Plastic Off the Sofa/Cranes in the Sky Mashup⁠ ⁠Our guest spot on the "And Introducing" podcast covering Jessica Simpson's Autobiography Our episode about Avril Lavigne Ashlee and Jessica Simpson sing "Little Drummer Boy"⁠

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  • There are moments in pop culture where an artist makes a choice - and there’s no turning back.

    Those moments, those inflection points, remind us that nothing is inevitable or predetermined, and we are all a part of history.

    Join us to unpack 4 inflection points in detail and name a buncha others.

    Here are some links we mentioned:

    Our episode about The Chicks

    Hannah’s 2018 newsletter about Miley Cyrus

    “Mariah Carey’s Glitter Era deserved better”

    Our episodes where we unpacked Glitter a bit more, “Artflop and Glitter Bomb” and “What’s in a Feud”

    Video of Michelle Williams falling and Beyonce and Kelly not caring

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  • So sorry, but: Why'd she have to go and make things so complicated? 

    Avril is such a rare artist. She made a splash right away with Let Go, which had a rebellious yet old soul sort of vibe to it. And her early eras and albums are still so special to so many of us. She changed the moment, she was the moment, and, in some ways, she always will be. She opened doors almost immediately into 2000s alt rock and pop punk sub-genres in what used to be a far more monocultural world.

    And yet, she hasn't evolved much herself as an artist over the last two decades. Instead, she regressed in some ways — at least from what we can see and hear and understand. The chaotically cool poetry in motion of Avril's Let Go and Under My Skin eras — the lyrics, sound, music videos, live performances, and core of who we thought she was — dwindled into something else later on. Her trajectory as an artist brings up all sorts of questions.

    Questions about what artists can mean to us at a formative age; the validity of our expectations of them, consciously or not, as we all grow up; ageism, misogyny, the idea of a sellout and a label’s role in that; what makes a good gateway artist; what makes a good post-9/11 cultural void artist; what makes a conspiracy theory take off; can someone ever be cool again after marrying and divorcing the lead singer of Nickelback, even if she married and divorced the lead singer of Sum 41 first; and more. Join us as we pull on some of these threads...

    Article and TV citations:

    CNN — Avril Lavigne: Teen rocker of 2002 Nylon — How Avril Lavigne's Let Go Broke the Mold for '00s Teens People — Avril Lavigne Recalls Making 2002's 'Let Go' as a Teenager: 'I Didn't Even Know What Hollywood Was' Vanity Fair — “I’ve Always Had This Vibe”: Avril Lavigne on 20 Years Since Let Go MTV — Total Request Live interview, August 2002

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  • Now for something a little different: on today's podcast Mimi, Hannah and Becky take listeners through a few artists they're excited about. Getting yourself, or others, to listen to new artists can sometimes be a challenge. Our brains are literally hardwired to replay stuff we like and know. So let us do the hard work introduce you to some new artists including Renee Rapp, Omar Apollo, and Ethel Cain. Press play, sit back, and enjoy.

    Listen to a playlist featuring all the artists on today's pod (shuffle or don't!)!

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  • First thing's first: Go birds; E-A-G-L-E-S; and Fly, Eagles, Fly. 

    Whew, okay. Here we find ourselves again at the intersection of music and sports. We're getting into the NFL's dreadful politics, we're gabbing about the iconic Super Bowl halftime shows of yore, we're speculating not-so-wildly about Rihanna's upcoming performance, and so much more.

    Here in the show notes, we're also correcting the record: Lady Gaga *caught* the football at the end of her 2017 halftime show. Good for her. And if you're wondering why this note is here, listen on!

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  • It’s our 50th episode!! We are so proud of US! <3 

    So - let’s reflect.

    We’ll stare directly at the sun but never in the mirror…until today.

    Join us on a trip down memory lane. We talk about how pop music has changed since we launched in 2019, revisit our old takes (find out which ones did not age well!), reflect on some pop stars we thought were on the rise and now, simply, aren’t, and play a B-Sides quiz game.

    We reference a bunch of our own episodes! Here’s most of them, in order of when we discuss them in the podcast:

    Episode 18: Season 1 Finale, “It was the end of a decade, but the start of an age” Episode 30: Tiktok on the Clock Episode 8: Literally WHAT is pop music?  Glee mini series: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 Episode 19: Why it’s sexist to hate pop music Episode 20: Our positions on “Positions”  Episode 7: Musical Conspiracy Theories  Episode 6: What Lizzo Means In Tr*mp’s America  Episode 33: Let's Go Girls: Country-Pop and the Women Who Are Shaping It Episode 34: The Trials and Tribulations of GirlBossery

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  • It's September 4, 2002. You're ten years old. You're huddled around your parents' TV, quickly dialing on your landline for vote for Kelly Clarkson. She is crowned the winner of American Idol. Hot tears are falling out your eyes. Kelly is belting a moment like this. You're wondering if like will ever be the same (it won't).

    On today's podcast, we're talking about the one and only, Kelly Clarkson. We discuss how she's managed to stay America's golden girl, the men who have tried to f*ck her over, and her evolving style (fedora hat and all). We hope you'll break away from your daily life and see what's behind those hazel eyes. 

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  • When 10 people died at Travis Scott’s Astroworld festival in November of 2021, it was incredibly difficult and painful to make sense of the news. Over a year later, we are here to pull lessons learned from the tragedy.

    TRIGGER WARNING for this episode: mass casualty events, substance use

    Part 1. Overview

    Part 2. The fallout for Travis and the Kardashian-Jenners

    Part 3. How crowds and artists *usually* protect each other

    Part 4. Six human errors that led to this tragedy

    Citations:

    Rolling stone article  Video of Adele stopping a concert  Linkin Park stopping a concert  Tiktok explaining Travis Scott rebranding as a family man TRIGGER WARNING for this article, mentioned at 50:30: Astroworld’s failed security plans

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  • This week we've got just one more review for you, and then we'll move on to our not-reviewing-a-new-album-or-film-every-episode programming.

    We watched Selena Gomez's new documentary, "My Mind & Me," and now it's time to share some thoughts on the fallacies of celebrity activism, great expectations, managing relationships within pop stardom and child stardom, passing bills through Congress, and more — including the ever-present soulless enterprise we all know as capitalism. Here's a quote we read aloud on the pod and said we'd post here, from A History of the World in Seven Cheap Things by Raj Patel and Jason Moore:

    “Often in visualizations of the spread of capitalism, the image that offers itself is an asteroid impact or the spread of a disease, which starts at ground or patient zero and metastasizes across the planet. Capitalist frontiers require a more sophisticated science fiction. If capitalism is a disease, then it’s one that eats your flesh — and then profits from selling your bones for fertilizer, and then invests that profit to reap the cane harvest, and then sells that harvest to tourists who pay to visit your headstone. But even this description isn’t adequate. The frontier works only through connection, fixing its failures by siphoning life from elsewhere. A frontier is a site where crises encourage new strategies for profit.”

    We promise that the episode is both connected to this quote and somehow fun at times. It contains multitudes!

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  • We came back for you with a full episode review of Carly Rae Jepsen's newest album, The Loneliest Time. The album – which was released the same midnight as Midnights – is a moonstruck album, chock-full of the suns and stars. 

    First we do a quick recap of Carly Rae's rise to fame, and then play a fun superlative game about what is most Carly and which lyrics we couldn't understand. We hope you go find yourself or WHATEVER (as long as you listen to this podcast on your journey). Be sure to catch our review of her concert here, too.

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  • The B-Sides is BACK for Season 3! (We came back for you, baby!)

    We are the *most* excited to launch season 3 with a review of Taylor Swift’s 10th studio album, Midnights.

    There’s a lot we would’ve, could’ve, should’ve said, but these are our immediate reactions after our first day of listening. We can’t wait to hear what you think - make sure to get in touch with your reactions.

    We give out superlatives and awards like: The "That's So Tay" Award, The Cringiest Lyric Award, and The Miss AmericaNO Award. Find out what wins ;) 

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  • The B-Sides season 3 is COMING!

    Until then, enjoy this bonus episode. Your friendly neighborhood B-Sides hosts went to see Carly Rae Jepsen live in concert at Radio City Music Hall for her So Nice Tour. Today’s episode is an in-depth review of the magical show - even if you didn’t see the concert, our review will help you Cut To The Feeling.

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  • Welcome to our season 2 finale! We're wrapping up 2021 with a nice long chat about the long shadow of 2009 in pop and pop culture. Such power, such impact. It's time to revisit the brash and soaring sound of music, the final cohort of ubiquitous artists, and the transformative technology that ushered in our modern hell scape. Should be fun, so settle in!

    Here was the syllabus for this episode, which we dropped a few days in advance in our discord group:

    Punch, Interview: DJ Earworm The Crimson White, 10 Year Column: One DJ distilled pop music into five minutes B-Sides Newsletter, The End of Ubiquity Vox, How the Taylor Swift-Kanye West VMAs scandal became a perfect American morality tale

    We also promised to share the Miley and Mandy YouTube channel... pls enjoy.

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  • Today we’re going to talk about Taylor Swift. We know it’s not ethical to speculate on celebrities’ sexualities. But it feels so intoxicating - and in some moments, righteous - to speculate on Taylor Swift’s personal life, especially when she invites deep speculation into her discography and all the text she puts out into the world. What’s a progressive to do?

    We’ll tackle this in four parts:

    Part 1: Why it is actually harmful to speculate about anyone’s sexuality Part 2: Taylor’s own history on this issue and what her easter eggs have done to melt our brains Part 3: Some history, including the history of closeted celebs and open secrets Part 4: Trying to land on some actual truths about Taylor Then we’ll end with our new favorite segment, what are you listening to?

    Here was the syllabus for this episode, which we dropped a few days in advance in our discord group:

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1rE33nMNB8twCdPLVQudM4kN0N5gv7UnnYQfYy0t3ObI/edit#slide=id.g3b692fe12f_0_0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp3XS0q06Wk especially minute 2:50 https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-danger-with-speculating-someones-sexual-identity Extra credit: an episode of taydar pod. Really any, but especially https://taydarpod.libsyn.com/episode-2-we-are-the-foxes-0

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  • On today’s episode we’re going to talk about the elusive and enduring genre of music that is Christian Rock. How did it happen? Why do we (as Jews) like the sound of Christian Rock? Why do some bands “pretend” not to be as Christian as they are? We'll discuss all this and more, plus play a game called "is this Christian Rock or White Christian Men singing?" We also dive into Adele's new album 30, and of course, Red (Taylor's Version). 

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    Other works cited:

    https://forward.com/culture/405510/is-it-kosher-for-a-jew-to-love-gospel-music/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/09/24/the-unlikely-endurance-of-christian-rock https://slate.com/culture/2007/07/the-freaky-origins-of-christian-rock.html https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-10-05/jesus-music-calvary-church-contemporary-christian-documentary https://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/music/Red_Jumpsuit_Apparatus_The_13_year_history_of_Christian_rock_band_survivors/58169/p1/

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  • With her 2017 album Witness, Katy Perry invented the genre of “purposeful pop” more as a tool for relevance in her album promotion than an actual political analysis, which hurt both the political agenda she was pushing and the album itself. We think you’ll enjoy this episode whether or not you know the album (and spoiler: even some of the most ardent pop listeners don’t know this album!).

    This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 40. You don’t need to listen to episode 40 first, but feel free to!

    This episode contains four parts:

    Part 1: Witness Overview Part 2: 2017 Music and Politics Context - 21:17 Part 3: “Purposeful Pop” throughout history - 30:26 Part 4: The result - 54:05 And introducing a new segment: What are you listening to? - 1:01:45

    Here was the syllabus for this episode. Feel free to follow along:

    Read this piece in Vox Read this piece in the NY Times Listen to these songs from Witness: Hey Hey Hey, Miss You More, Save as Draft, Bigger than Me. TBH listen to as much as you can stomach. DON'T list to: Pendulum Watch: a few mins of Katy Perry's SNL performances of Bon Appetit and Swish Swish

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    Other works cited:

    https://www.bet.com/article/qgclb9/katy-perry-blackness-is-not-a-musical-genre https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/katy-perry-witness/ https://www.theroot.com/katy-the-queen-of-cultural-appropriation-perry-is-at-1790885633

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  • This week, we return to flophood but with a Halloweentown twist. Because the flop eras we’re talking about this episode involve artists who felt compelled to enter eras and try on identities that are aesthetically creepy, at the very least. We dare you to take a side-by-side look at the cover art for Christina Aguilera's Bionic and Katy Perry's Witness...

    But the larger story here is about what happens when a pop star reinvents themselves for a new era of their career and, instead of a natural evolution or next step, it seems forced and goes badly. After all, reinvention is a double-edged sword: it can really elevate an artist’s career, help them grow and express themselves in new ways, and even change the direction of pop music, but it can also usher them into flophood. There are a lot of variables at play that can determine whether or not these pivots are successful, but often there’s just sort of an “it” factor of like...does it seem genuine? And then we have to ask why or why not...

    We'll also touch on Madonna's role in setting the tone for reinvention and what it means to be a dynamic, longstanding pop star.

    Xtina + Bionic starts at: 6:40, Katy Perry + Witness starts at: 46:00 ish

    There were two sort of obscure clips we discussed in this episode: here's Xtina's Bionic interview and Katy Perry's Part of Me doc (~2:30)

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  • On today's podcast we are joined by musical expert Jon Schneidman. Together we do a deep dive into Dear Evan Hansen, the recent musical turned movie, that may or may not have ruined Ben Platt's career. We explore white mediocrity in film vs stage, autistic coding, and nepotism. Maybe, after you listen, you'll be found.

    TW: this episode talks about suicide as it relates to the plot of DEH.

    Reading on autistic coding and representation.

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  • What’s in a flop?

    On today’s episode, we look at moments that “flopped” through a more critical lens to discuss why albums flop, what happens when a “flop” is not really a “flop,” and how the cultural void of the early aughts fits in to this. We’ll do that by examining two seminal texts - ARTPOP by Lady Gaga (2013) and Glitter by Mariah Carey (2001).

    So excited to announce the creation of our discord space, which you can join here: https://discord.gg/8fA4Wqcqkp

    And - THE GRITTY T-SHIRTS ARE HERE! Link to buy them: https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheBSidesMerch/

    Flop taxonomy starts at: 8:15 ARTPOP starts at: 17:00 Glitter starts at: 53:05

    Shoutout to Audrey Davis, who’s piece about Lorde and Billie Eilish and Flops that we mentioned is linked here.

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