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In this episode Steve takes a deep dive into the 10,000m track event in our series on trying to make Michael into a track & field fan in anticipation of the 2024 Olympics in Paris. For the notes Steve created to help introduce Michael to the event, please see below.
Please note that we while we didn't go into the women's 10K nearly enough, we'll continue to bring out the important storylines over the coming months to ensure Michael has as much intel on the women's events as the men's.The 10,000m Episode Notes
Relevance. It's more likely that you have experience running/racing the 10K than the 800m. Also, you understand the energy needs for this event more than the 800m. The TEN. One of the biggest 10Ks of the year was run this weekend. Sound Running put on the their yearly 10K on So Cal in perfect conditions where athletes were trying to get their Olympic standards. This provides an excellent opportunity for you to watch the race before we talk & have it top of mind.
Here is a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdnO--7pbP4
You won't know many/any? of the names before watching this video & I won't be surprised if you want to fast forward to the final 5 min or so. If you do fast forward, I recommend you jump to 17 min (18:17 on the video). One argument for listening all the way through is you can get a chance to be exposed some of the lingo & energy. How To Qualify for the Olympics. This will give us a chance to go over the rather confusing & complicated process for getting on the starting line of the 10K in Paris. Another important 10K happened over the weekend in Spain where two of the favorites for the 10K gold medal ran on the roads. You can see that HERE of you are interested.Main Discussion Points
We want to talk distance. How the event feels when racing. We want to talk surface. Track (25 laps of the 400m track) vs Cross Country vs Road. I want to talk about technology & how wavelight & new "super" spike/shoe tech has revolutionized the distance. Also, here is an interesting review of the top 6 models as of summer 2023.I want to talk a quick overview of the history of the event: Flying Finns, Emil Zatopek & then the African Dominance of the past 30 years. See below for a bit more on that. Set Up for the Olympic 10K final. Is the 10K redundant?Quick History
The Flying Finns: Paavo Nurmi & the dominance of Finland in the first Emil Zatopek, of Czechoslovakia East/North African Dominance
The MenAt the World Championships, between 1991-2023, out of 51 potential medals, 47 were won by East or North Africans. The other four were won by Mo Farah of Great Britain, who was born & raised in Somalia, in East Africa. .
At the Olympics, between 1988-2020, out of 21 potential medals East/North Africans won 17 of 21. 2 of these were Mo Farah. The other two were an Italian in 1988 (EPO era) & Galen Rupp in 2012.
There have been a few eras in the 10K since the 70's.
The Lasse Viren era (Prefontaine & Frank Shorter competed in this era).The Haile Gebraselassie/Paul Tergat era.The Kenenisa Bekele era.The Mo Farah era.& the Joshua Cheptegai era we are in currently.The Women
Women did not begin competing in the 10K until the late 80's at the World Championships (1987) & 1988 Olympics.
Similar story to the men in the dominance of East/North Africans in the event.
Recent Results & Race Videos setting up 2024 Paris Olympics
2019 World Championships at Doha: VIDEO & SUMMARY
2020 Solo WR by Joshua Cheptegai at Valencia with the wavelights VIDEO & SUMMARY
2021 Olympics in Tokyo VIDEO & SUMMARY
2022 World Championships in Eugene VIDEO OF FINAL 1K & SUMMARY
2023 World Championships in Budapest SHORTER VIDEO & SUMMARY
The TEN (VIDEO) was raced this weekend & 8 runners got the Olympic Standard.
& that's just the men.
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In this episode we introduce a series in which we endeavor to educate & inspire Michael to become a track & field fan as we approach the 2024 Paris Olympics. As the series unfolds, we'll go through each of the distance/middle distance events & unpack the event, its history & attempt to set the stage for whatever transpires this spring & summer. It is an incredible time to be a track fan. Each event now has an unprecedented about to drama, really compelling storylines & rivalries & we are seeing an absolute renaissance in the sport, & especially in the middle & ling distances as America is finally competitve & the hegemony of the East & North Africans is beginning to be broken up. It is a very exciting time to be a fan. We hope you'll consider joing us on this journey we call Hoe To Become A Track Fan: An Introduction. Godspeed my friends, godspeed.
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In this episode Steve critiques Michael's strength training regimen. We cover four domains that should be considered when spending any time working on developing strength.
Some links to resources discussed in this episode:
The two classic text's Steve references here are by Jay Dicharry are Anatomy for Runners & Running Rewired. -
In this episode we discuss the roots of being local. In Austin, we have a local business support rallying cry that has become the de facto Austin vibe: Keep Austin Weird. We spend a lot of time wrestling with the concept of being local in a global running culture. This is our 50th episode & while we don't really celebrate the milestone in any concrete way, we definitely hit our favorite themes here.
Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.
Some links around what we discuss in this episode:
Comedor Running Club in Austin
Atreyu Run Club is Michael's crew in Austin.
Episode 25 where Paul Carrozza challenges us to invest in local events.We've decided to jettison the intro & drop the needle right into the deep track. Let us know if you miss it...I certaily won't miss doing it!
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What an awesome opportunity Michael & I had last week to interview the legendary Leo "The Lion Manzano. This is a personal & wide-ranging discussion around his experiences in the sport & industry of distance running. One of Keep Going's missions is to explore local running culture & this episode does not disappoint on that level, but it is also so much more. Leo is incredibly candid, funny & insightful in detailing how a young Hispanic boy in Granite Shores/Marble Falls with limited options or opportunities ran himself into the American running legend he his today.
In this episode we cover a lot of ground but spend most of our time discussing Leo's local Central Texas roots & racing experiences. If you don't know who Leo Manzano is, you must be living under a rock. He won the first Olympic medal in the 1500m in the 2012 London Olympics in 44 years. As we discuss here, we argue that Leo - & his University of Texas teammates between 2004-2008 - fundamentally changed the face of American distance running.
Leo has two ventures we are excited to support. Check out his store at www.leomanzano.com. Leo is also announcing very soon his involvement in the new Border Line Track Club, founded by Paul Carrozza this spring. This group's unique feature - besides having both Paul & Crayton, his six-time All-American son, onboard - is to help athletes who find themselves in limbo in their collegiate career. There are many athletes who find themselves pushed out of the collegiate system. This group will allow these athletes to bridge back to the collegiate system, or bypass it altogether if that's the best choice. See this recent FloTrack article for more, We are very excited to see how this venture proceeds & look forward to supporting Leo & Paul in any way we can.
Please enjoy this extended & candid conversation with one of the all time greatest American middle distance runners, Leo "The Lion" Manzano.A correction in the audio: Leo was at UT from 2004-2008, not from 2008-2012.
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We have been dancing around the edges of capital P "purpose" in many of our discussions over the past year, but in this episode Michael & I dive in deeper. We consider if purpose should be considered as an ultimate aim or if we are in need of a less grandiose & more useful conception. As usual we get into pretty deep waters. But you've come to expect that by now.
So we hope you'll join us for a conversation we call Running & Purpose: Towards a Natural Style.
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One of the core opportunities every runner needs to experience is getting embedded in a running community. Having others do the work along side you significantly nehances the running experience. In this episode we interview Ryan Yamba, president & social media coordinator for the Rose City Track Club based in Portland, Oregon. We discuss his personal running journey, the benefits of training in a group, the hazards & responsibilities of training in group environments & more. In the final 30 minutes we really dig deeper into the meaningful experience of group running & how perhaps the cliche of the Church of the Long Run is actually a true statement.
Be sure to check out the Rose City Track Club's Instagram page for more of the flavor of their unique setup & vibe.
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There are so many varieties of training experience: the easy run, quality sessions, long runs, VO2 max, threshold, etc. The list is very long here, for sure One very specific varietal is commonly called, The Grind. In this episode we steep deeply on this concept & the ways it can be considered. Is The Grind essential? Is it good? Is it dangerous? What kind of wisdom, of felt sense, are required to balancing The Grind with the very real risks of overtraining. We mention discernment as being critical in this regard. An analogy of the defensive backs in American football has always seemed appropriate to be. There is a saying, "bend but don't break". This cuts to the heart of what we discuss around the critical distinction between working hard & smart & risking overtraining & injury. We hope we've thrown a little light on the subject in this episode we call The Grind: Varieties of Training Experience.
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We have all experienced the existential dread around the 48 hours prior to a command performance: bubble-guts, lack of ability to focus or relax, the feeling that wish the race would not happen or there would be a cancellation so you don't have to go through the actual suffering you know is going to be served. In this episode, Michael & I explore this space in some details. We get meta & highly practical. Typical of how we've been rolling in these last few episodes.
Because it may be of interest, since I mention my recent episode of Running on Purpose, where I provide what I hope is a helpful road map for skillfully operating- in training & racing - with the contents of your body, mind & soul. you can find links to the episode & worksheet below.
So please enjoy the episode we are calling Some Thoughts on Mental Training.
Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.THE MISSION PROTOCOL
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Love & light are not all there is. While at some foundational metaphysical level, perhaps all is emptiness or bliss or any other altered state of consciousness. But in the day to day operations of being a human in this crazy, fucked up world at this "interesting time" in civilizational history, things are much more painful & messy & hard. How we wake up everyday pretending to be ready for the chaos that is awaiting us once we step out our doors of safety, is astounding to me. We talk about purpose or meaning or manifesting. But reality of the situation is that we are in nature & of nature & nature doesn't give a flying fuck about us. Our personal history & goals don't seem mean a goddamn thing to actual functioning of the universe. & there are hazards to being alive & aware & paying attention. Suffering, pain & risk are right here. Right in front of us. & if we are going reason & hope & try at this game of life, is to risk everything. We must wrestle with the angel of risk, just as Jacob wrestled with his angel in the Biblical story in Genesis (34:27).
In this episode we get really real about risk: how most people avoid recognizing risk in their training & racing, how risk can effect our mental health & life purpose & how accepting risk & meeting it head are the cost of doing business when trying to operate in high performance situations. As we frequently do in these conversations, we lay out a blanket & sit down with risk. Along the way we get messy, ball the blanket up, tear at it gnash our teeth, bend over backwards as we approach the monsters hiding underneath it. We get hot & bothered in this one & I go on a few spontaneous rants. You've been warned.
So join us in this exploration we call Wrestling with the Angel of Risk.
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The nature of human endeavor is to keep moving, to keep pressing forward. What is it about the human condition that looks forward & plans? We've all nodded knowingly when someone quotes, "Man plans; God laughs." & yet, we're incorrigible planners. In this episode, Michael & I break down our 2023 experience of this crazy life & look forward to whatever 2024 might bring. Maybe you are already tired of our personal reflections or, in general, are experiencing "year in review" fatigue. If so, maybe skip this one. But we hope you'll join us if only to get a clearer understanding of the themes that this podcast is constantly mining for ways that we can steal the culture. So we're using the tried & true method of reflection to help us peer ahead & see what might be around the next corner. Join us for the episode we call "Your Life Is Here For You Right Now: A Reflection". Happy New Year, y'all.
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This is an episode that has a lot really personal revelations. I felt maybe it was a little too personal, entering TMI zone from my perspective, but Michael's trip to Japan has become so important to his overall worldview & the direction he is beginning to be called to take Atreyu & his own creative journey. It would be remiss to let this episode sit on the cutting room floor, so consider it a Christmas gift from Michael & I to you in this holiday season. We recorded this right after his trip, in mid-November & much of the discussion is devoted to the unique beauty of Japanese running culture. We eventually move on to how travel, journeys & running in on & in country have changed our lives.
We hope you enjoy unpacking this audio gift we call, On Japan & Journeys: Personal Reflections on Running Culture.
We'll see you again in 2024.
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Ahhh, the iconic Lou Reed with singing the title to this week's Keep Going podcast. In this episode, Michael & I finally get back to a specific running training topic. We wax poetic, abound locquatious platitudes & reach toward the profound. All in search of the perfect long run.
Thank your for listening to Keep Going & if you want this podcast to reach others like you, give us a rating or review wherever you drop into these conversations. Not that we really care that much...it's like Christmas comes every Thursday for us.
Here's the episode we call, A Perfect Day: On the Long Run.
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In this episode of the Keep Going podcast, Michael & discuss some of the implications around a recent podcast episode discussing various aspects of GenX culture that inspired us. You can view this at Howl in the Wilderness' YouTube channel or search Erik Davis, Is Generation X Still Relevant? HITW 125, in your podcatcher of relevance.
We get started talking about the recent The Running Event in Austin & how that experience impacted Michael & Atreyu. We bow deeply to Anthony Bourdain & get really hot under the collar around the idea of selling out. Good luck hanging on to the twists & turns in this one. But stay with us...there is gold in them thar hills.
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In this episode, we break down what is really happening when we gain fitness. I sense that there is a pretty big misunderstanding around the actual mechanisms, the levers that we pull to develop fitness. What transpires is an episode that explores the subtle & & not so subtle mindset shifts that are required to truly maximize the training & our thinking around the training, the recovery & all the other things that we consider when we consider fitness.
Thank you for listening.
Without further ado, we bring you the episode we call A Pebble on the Beach of Your Fitness.
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This episode is in honor of Lightenin' Larry Bright. Larry was an athlete I coached, a coach I mentored & a friend with whom I shared miles & smiles & tears. Larry took his own life recently & I want to take this opportunity to ask each of you to reach out to someone you know today to tell them you care for them. We never know how our actions might positively impact a friend or colleague who may need your touch. Do not miss this opportunity. We are all interconnected & what happens to one of us, happens to all of us.
In this episode, Michael & I debrief our experience at the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. I came away from the race, which by nearly all metrics was an unmitigated success, feeling a shadow lingering. Every athlete either set a personal best or ran better than they had hoped. But because one athlete in our group was trying to qualify for the US Olympic Trials, the stakes seemed even higher than usual. She missed the required mark after staying on pace for over 20 miles, yet her ability to hold sub-6 minute miles became frustratingly untenable. She still set PR & slipped under the 2:40 barrier but our entire group all felt a sense of sadness that was palpable even as we celebrated post-race.Michael & I work through this ambiguity & its shadow in this episode. Hopefully you can resonate & learn from our shared exploration in this episode we call Embracing Uncertainty: Patter & Chaos in Assessing Results.
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In this episode, your intrepid hosts try something new. We didn't feel like we had enough of a robust topic to fill our usual 60-75 minute conversational window, so we decided to cobble something together & see if it adheres. Likely it doesn't but each of these topics felt like they needed to be aired, so here we are airing them out.
In the first third of the episode, we discuss my favorite album of all time - Talk Talk's Laughingstock. Their final album, released in 1991 which is - in my opinion - as close to a perfect ablum as can be found. I was confident Michael would really enjoy it but it took hims a while to get around to putting the headphones on & giving it a spin...or stream...or whatever.
In the second third we discuss Michael's recent triathlon, a 70.3 Half Iron in Waco, Texas. Since we've peppered many of our recent epsiodes with tidbits from Michael's training, we felt it timely & instructive to do a little post-mortem.
& finally, we took a listener's recent comment to me that they'd like a little more tangible training & racing tactics from the podcast. So we end up discussing whether or not we should give the people what they want.
If there is something you want, drop us a line. Send an email to me at sisson at telosrunning dot com or, if you like this shit, give us a rating or review wherever you get your podcast consumables. We hope this episode finds you healthy, happy & hale. & please, god speed, my friends, godspeed. -
The conversations Michael & I have sometimes feel like therapy. There is the sense that we can work out whatever happens to be front & center in our personal & professional lives through talking it out every Thursday morning at his condo. That's pretty much what psychotherapy is designed to do. Holding ourselves accountable for the choices we make is radical responsibility: from waking up & getting out the door on those stormy mornings to battling the inner & outer demons that feel like they want to devour us where we sit.
I mention the book Tough by Greg Everett in this episode & I highly recommend it for anyone interested in the mental side of training. In this book, Everett talks about Character, Capacity, Capability. There is a the fourth C I forgot when mentioning it in this discussion, which is Commitment. Interestingly enough, commitment is action & practice. This sets us off on a deeper exploration of a concept I have been unpacking since the pandemic, when many of us lost our purpose because races were cancelled. What follows here is a conversation that gets pretty personal, especially for Michael. We wondered whether or not to release this episode because of its sensitive nature, its raw bloody revelation of the struggle we have in our day to day lives. What is authenticity? What is true to our core essential nature? & why does running sometimes feel like a slick sales job designed to sell us something. Michaels & I are businessmen. We are entrepreneurs operating in late Western capitalism, attempting to both provide for our families & to change the running culture. This conversation reveals just how hard that work can be.
& we know we are not alone. We know you also feel this paradox of wanting the next new thing that will make you better, faster, sexier, cooler at your next race & knowing, with everything you hold dear, with every ounce of your godforsaken soul that running cannot be capitalized upon, that - at its essence - running is pure being. That is all.
So if you resonate with this episode, let us know. Drop us a line. Give this podcast a rating or share how it makes you think & feel. Because the only way we steal this culture is when we all show up & practice our bliss. -
An episode where we talk about the foundations & fundamentals of footwear.
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Coming at you with back to back episodes this week...a little 2 fer 1 action. We have a little back log in the Keep Going pipeline & decided to try to get caught up. We are doing this because we've started recoding video for the podcast & are now on YouTube, check out the link below or search Atreyu Running over there & you'll find us gesticulating & oscillating wildly...just jamming multiple Smiths references in one episode. If we didn't these out, they'd end up all soft & moldy in my hard drive & nobody wants that. So here we go. I expect we'll toss another two episodes at you next week, as well. We'll see.
In this one, we talk about how to choose a race. We talk timing, seasons & race distances & I throw out three potentially useful categories of races that might help you in considering & selecting your races in the upcoming months. So without further ado, we bring you the episode we call Locals, Classics & Epics: How To Select A Race.
Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.
Atreyu Running's YouTube channel, where we've started posting the video accompaniment to these audio recordings. - Visa fler
